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After watching this from Vice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eujSJ0-RU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eujSJ0-RU one of my takeaways is that it can be incr
by bane 7y ago
After watching this from Vice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eujSJ0-RU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6eujSJ0-RU one of my takeaways is that it can be incredibly isolating and egodestroying to be a suburban stay-at-home parent.
What came up time and time again in the Vice video to me was that these women were often financially okay, but life in suburbia had left them socially isolated. The need for a social network that provided them with positive affirmation, even one that is as fake as a pyramid scheme's drove it. Some of the women in the video had even taken out rent on storefronts, or dedicated large portions of their homes as showrooms or for inventory, which has massive hidden (or not so hidden) costs associated with it.
I think this article adds some more color to the phenomenon. It describes people who again, aren't necessarily over extended, but are living pretty close to the line. Who don't want to give up suburban life and all the activities they want to provide their kids + bored housemoms during the day who can maybe make a few extra dollars putting their expensive SUVs to work doing menial tasks for other people instead of their own family.
I would be if all the costs and earning were added up, these women would be making less than minimum wage. Sitting around in an expensive car all day looking for gigs that pay $.60/mi + tip is terrible income. Her cost per hour for having the vehicle "employed" probably annihilates most of the "earnings" anyways, but she's not thinking of the deferred costs that will come later with higher maintenance. They describe a day as making $133 in 10 hours ($13.30/hr), but that includes the payment per delivery mile.
The real question to me is why aren't these women going to work in local businesses? If they're satisfied working gig jobs, why not go work at a local restaurant or as a bookkeeper or secretary at some local business? A quick side story, my brother works lots of odd jobs. He works these jobs because at some point those jobs, during certain conditions, offered some crazy payout per day (think thousands of dollars per day). He thinks (and there's no dissuading him from this) that if he can just get things lines up just right, he can tap into a mythical gravy train where this money is the normal payout for him. For example, he owns and stores a large snowplow and a very large expensive truck so that when it snows in the winter, he can grab a road clearing contract. In his mind, a few good snows and he's made his normal income for the year. He rarely gets on those contracts and his expenses far outweigh his earnings in terms of storage and maintenance costs on tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.
However, it's these prospective earnings that absolutely dominate his thinking, but his other earnings are so generally small.
I think it's the prospect of days like the best one described, where she made $21.25/hr which is around $44,200 year which, if the other person in the household is working for around $20k/yr puts them above median for the U.S. ($61,372/yr/household) which ain't terrible (I know the tech workers here are gasping at so little!) It's just too bad that these gig workers will probably make much less than that.
- chrisseaton 7y agoYou mention suburbia a lot. What do you think is different about life in suburbia compared to a city or rural area that makes life there any more isolating?
- bane 7y agoI don't know if its any more isolating in the general sense (I have my own anecdotes about all three kinds of places). But I think the phenomenon of these kinds of gig jobs being predominantly (or targeting) otherwise idle suburban house-wives is incredibly fascinating and seems to be digging at a deeper underlying phenomenon.
- chrisseaton 7y agoMaybe they're just targeting idle house-wives, and they happen to be often located in suburbia, but the suburban part is irrelevant?
- HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago/rant on After watching this from Vice I've watched my fair share of their journalisticish videos- they feel very one-sided and don't consider how damaging their coverage can be to their subjects- filming the faces of guerilla fighters in a third-world country seems to me like a really inconsiderate idea. Sure, they cover things that no one else will, but they also cover things in a way that no one else does, either. /rant off
- marcinzm 7y ago>If they're satisfied working gig jobs, why not go work at a local restaurant or as a bookkeeper or secretary at some local business? Most likely because either they have specific hours they can't work or the hours they can work are un-predictable. Businesses like workers who will work the same hours or work shifts on demand without question. And in this economy there are plenty of workers willing to do that. Businesses also outsource things a lot now to save money, a secretary may be a call center in India if they need one full time and their bookkeeper may be a guy in Florida.