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> By labeling the solution as "community care" you are really not proposing a solution: what are the implementation steps for your solution? I'm not proposing

> By labeling the solution as "community care" you are really not proposing a solution: what are the implementation steps for your solution? I'm not proposing anything new, I'm proposing the model that is used by most other developed countries and is being successfully used in some parts of the United States. If you think that "community care" is some vague pie-in-the-sky notion rather than an established approach to care with a proven track record, then there's very little point in continuing this discussion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_mental_health_service https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_mental_health_servic...

fosk 7y ago
In the US “community care” sounds like a great way of collecting more tax money while ultimately not implementing any program that works. I want politicians to establish the rule of law and create a livable community by implementing a program (or community care checklist) with the tax money we are already providing. Instead we have unaccountability, poverty, illness, misery and high taxes. All at the same time. We need to abolish Proposition 47.
briancleland 7y ago
As a resident of the UK, I can state that community care is exactly the same ideologically-driven agenda with exactly the same real-world failings that are being ascribed to the US model. The only difference is that there are still remnants of a benefit system that provide some protection for the least fortunate, although the government is in the process of dismantling those as well.
- hackermailman 7y ago
  It's a failure in most of Canada too, every successive provincial government decides to slash it's budget or 'reorganize' community care to the point it's just a weak pill dispensing model with no oversight and thus you get mentally ill in the street at all hours running wild with drug and alcohol addictions. I think Andrew Yang style UBI is really the only solution, a guaranteed monthly living income that's illegal to take loans against or illegal to withhold because of debts. That or some kind of accountability where we are able to personally sue politicians who have turned our cities into poorly run asylums.

fosk 7y ago

In the US “community care” sounds like a great way of collecting more tax money while ultimately not implementing any program that works. I want politicians to establish the rule of law and create a livable community by implementing a program (or community care checklist) with the tax money we are already providing. Instead we have unaccountability, poverty, illness, misery and high taxes. All at the same time. We need to abolish Proposition 47.

briancleland 7y ago

As a resident of the UK, I can state that community care is exactly the same ideologically-driven agenda with exactly the same real-world failings that are being ascribed to the US model. The only difference is that there are still remnants of a benefit system that provide some protection for the least fortunate, although the government is in the process of dismantling those as well.

hackermailman 7y ago
It's a failure in most of Canada too, every successive provincial government decides to slash it's budget or 'reorganize' community care to the point it's just a weak pill dispensing model with no oversight and thus you get mentally ill in the street at all hours running wild with drug and alcohol addictions. I think Andrew Yang style UBI is really the only solution, a guaranteed monthly living income that's illegal to take loans against or illegal to withhold because of debts. That or some kind of accountability where we are able to personally sue politicians who have turned our cities into poorly run asylums.