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Seriously you dont remember the gifs, the flash , the unblocked popups/popunders/popovers/hijackers etc? It was far worse back then but the signal to noise was

Seriously you dont remember the gifs, the flash , the unblocked popups/popunders/popovers/hijackers etc? It was far worse back then but the signal to noise was better. The reason: lack of social media which is 99.999999% absolute informational garbage.

krapp 7y ago
>lack of social media which is 99.999999% absolute informational garbage. The purpose of social media isn't to provide "information," but to facilitate communication between people. Making jokes or discussing trivial matters which don't interest you personally, or not doing so in a way that maximizes information density, does not make it garbage.
- return1 7y ago
  the problem is they leak out
- kthejoker2 7y ago
  What makes social media garbage is it takes every human cognitive bias and multiplies it by infinity, and offers very little virtue by way of compensation. It is psychic damage entirely driven by the id. It replaces expert advice and ombudsmen with popularity contests and groupthink. It is a neverending reinforcement loop of your filter bubble. It mainstreams every fringe movement - because social media uses attention as a key metric, it rewards controversy, outrage, and conspiracy. It's a 24/7, infinite scale, effectively anonymous and entirely asymmetrical amalgam of the Stanford Prison Experiment, Kitty Genovese, Jonestown, Alfred Dreyfus, Jack Chick, Charles Mackay, the Hillsborough crush, 2 minute hate, the banality of evil, "a lie flies around the world before truth gets its boots on", cargo cults, suicide bombers, the Inquisition, Leon Festinger, "It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble, it’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so", and 1000 other human failings.
lousken 7y ago
No, didn't have flash or java installed before XP; and as I said below - gifs sure, no don't remember any popups on czech sites i visited.
- return1 7y ago
  All these technologies existed in webpages in the 90s. There were a lot of popups too, it's kind of a meme https://www.techly.com.au/2018/02/14/techly-explains-fascinating-evolution-cybersecurity/90s-internet/ https://www.techly.com.au/2018/02/14/techly-explains-fascina...
  - lousken 7y ago
    I'm not denying that, i am just saying it wasn't my experience at the time. Also since I had to pay for every minute of connection I didn't really browse through various sites, I only connected to visit a specific site or do a specific thing.

krapp 7y ago

>lack of social media which is 99.999999% absolute informational garbage. The purpose of social media isn't to provide "information," but to facilitate communication between people. Making jokes or discussing trivial matters which don't interest you personally, or not doing so in a way that maximizes information density, does not make it garbage.

return1 7y ago
the problem is they leak out
kthejoker2 7y ago
What makes social media garbage is it takes every human cognitive bias and multiplies it by infinity, and offers very little virtue by way of compensation. It is psychic damage entirely driven by the id. It replaces expert advice and ombudsmen with popularity contests and groupthink. It is a neverending reinforcement loop of your filter bubble. It mainstreams every fringe movement - because social media uses attention as a key metric, it rewards controversy, outrage, and conspiracy. It's a 24/7, infinite scale, effectively anonymous and entirely asymmetrical amalgam of the Stanford Prison Experiment, Kitty Genovese, Jonestown, Alfred Dreyfus, Jack Chick, Charles Mackay, the Hillsborough crush, 2 minute hate, the banality of evil, "a lie flies around the world before truth gets its boots on", cargo cults, suicide bombers, the Inquisition, Leon Festinger, "It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble, it’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so", and 1000 other human failings.

lousken 7y ago

No, didn't have flash or java installed before XP; and as I said below - gifs sure, no don't remember any popups on czech sites i visited.

return1 7y ago
All these technologies existed in webpages in the 90s. There were a lot of popups too, it's kind of a meme https://www.techly.com.au/2018/02/14/techly-explains-fascinating-evolution-cybersecurity/90s-internet/ https://www.techly.com.au/2018/02/14/techly-explains-fascina...
- lousken 7y ago
  I'm not denying that, i am just saying it wasn't my experience at the time. Also since I had to pay for every minute of connection I didn't really browse through various sites, I only connected to visit a specific site or do a specific thing.