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There might be a way to block the patch, but having a computer strictly for gaming makes you a bit of an outlier.

by p1mrx 7y ago

CWuestefeld 7y ago
an outlier, but not a unicorn. Dedicated machines running RetroPie for gaming is very much a thing. Probably most people doing this use a RPi (so not Intel), there's a lot of us buying old OptiPlexes and stuff.
- lkschubert8 7y ago
  People running RetroPie are unicorns of unicorns in terms of the people using computers. Hell even people gaming are unicorns in terms of overall computer usage.
  - CWuestefeld 7y ago
    I disagree. I can think of at least three use cases that frequently employ Intel CPUs, and that involve running a limited set of low-risk software: * Gaming-only machines, like my RetroPie example. * Media servers, like for Plex or Kodi. * NAS servers, powered by software like UNRAID.
    - lkschubert8 7y ago
      But those uses are still smaller than rounding errors in terms of overall usage.
      - CWuestefeld 7y ago
        It's big enough to create whole markets for commercial software, as my examples of Plex and UNRAID show.
aaronmdjones 7y ago
My only Windows machine is only used for gaming. It doesn't even have a web browser. It's also on its own VLAN, so it can't talk to my other machines.
- BlueTemplar 7y ago
  How did you manage to rip out IE/Edge from Windows ?!?
  - aaronmdjones 7y ago
    By uninstalling it? https://cdn.tweaks.com/img/article/RemoveIE2.png https://cdn.tweaks.com/img/article/RemoveIE2.png
alkonaut 7y ago
It would yes, but my argument is this. Anyone who has a modern ("AAA" gaming machine) has probably paid a fair chunk of money for it. For a high end one, maybe $2-3k. Now consider how much of that money went into the last 10-15% performance of the machine. There are significant diminishing returns. It's for example the difference between a mid-range i5/i7 and the highest end i9 on the CPU end, or the difference between a 1660ti and a 2070 on the graphics card side. It's often several hundred dollars that went into the last 10%. So: even if I built that machine to not be exclusively used for gaming (which would be an outlier), anyone who has a machine of that kind could easily motivate making it exclusive for gaming, because there is so much money in that 10-15% that we can buy a second much cheaper machine (e.g. a low end laptop, chromebook etc) to use for other things.

There might be a way to block the patch, but having a computer strictly for gaming makes you a bit of an outlier.

by p1mrx 7y ago

There might be a way to block the patch, but having a computer strictly for gaming makes you a bit of an outlier.

an outlier, but not a unicorn. Dedicated machines running RetroPie for gaming is very much a thing. Probably most people doing this use a RPi (so not Intel), there's a lot of us buying old OptiPlexes and stuff.

lkschubert8 7y ago
People running RetroPie are unicorns of unicorns in terms of the people using computers. Hell even people gaming are unicorns in terms of overall computer usage.
- CWuestefeld 7y ago
  I disagree. I can think of at least three use cases that frequently employ Intel CPUs, and that involve running a limited set of low-risk software: * Gaming-only machines, like my RetroPie example. * Media servers, like for Plex or Kodi. * NAS servers, powered by software like UNRAID.
  - lkschubert8 7y ago
    But those uses are still smaller than rounding errors in terms of overall usage.
    - CWuestefeld 7y ago
      It's big enough to create whole markets for commercial software, as my examples of Plex and UNRAID show.

aaronmdjones 7y ago

My only Windows machine is only used for gaming. It doesn't even have a web browser. It's also on its own VLAN, so it can't talk to my other machines.

BlueTemplar 7y ago
How did you manage to rip out IE/Edge from Windows ?!?
- aaronmdjones 7y ago
  By uninstalling it? https://cdn.tweaks.com/img/article/RemoveIE2.png https://cdn.tweaks.com/img/article/RemoveIE2.png

alkonaut 7y ago

It would yes, but my argument is this. Anyone who has a modern ("AAA" gaming machine) has probably paid a fair chunk of money for it. For a high end one, maybe $2-3k. Now consider how much of that money went into the last 10-15% performance of the machine. There are significant diminishing returns. It's for example the difference between a mid-range i5/i7 and the highest end i9 on the CPU end, or the difference between a 1660ti and a 2070 on the graphics card side. It's often several hundred dollars that went into the last 10%. So: even if I built that machine to not be exclusively used for gaming (which would be an outlier), anyone who has a machine of that kind could easily motivate making it exclusive for gaming, because there is so much money in that 10-15% that we can buy a second much cheaper machine (e.g. a low end laptop, chromebook etc) to use for other things.