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I'd be more inclined to think that richer people spend more time and money on their kids - a kid constantly left at home with working parents is going to be wor

I'd be more inclined to think that richer people spend more time and money on their kids - a kid constantly left at home with working parents is going to be worse off than with parents that are home and read to and interact with them

MaxBarraclough 7y ago
> I'd be more inclined to think that richer people spend more time and money on their kids This article [0] says your generalisation is correct: > Middle-class and higher-income parents see their children as projects in need of careful cultivation [...] Working-class parents, meanwhile, believe their children will naturally thrive, and give them far greater independence and time for free play. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/upshot/rich-children-and-poor-ones-are-raised-very-differently.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/upshot/rich-children-and-...
- candiodari 7y ago
  And like any other learning algorithm free-play has "real-world" information, free exploration, creativity. The vast majority of which is very slowly learning what not to do. Most times, that's all that happens. Cultivation, when perfectly executed, provides about 50-50 what to do and not to do. Cultivation results in far faster progress. In deep learning, in reinforcement leearning, and in humans. (reinforcement algorithms are worse actually, they will simply barely make any progress at all until they see a positive example) The problem is that this is really, really not what people want to hear. Free play, freedom to explore, ... results supposedly in happier children, more fulfilling lives, creativity, ... Except ... no it doesn't. It's an empty meaningless long string of failures slowly sapping strength until you fail, with very rare example of great success. It's spending seed corn on a lottery ticket. This is made more difficult by the observation that, yes, eventually, if you do climb to the very top of society you'll be playing the exploration game, without any cultivation, regardless of whether you got there with exploration or cultivation.
deogeo 7y ago
No need to speculate - a quick peek at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ provides the answer: "The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73%"
- mcguire 7y ago
  This is why the better classes of people are so much superior to the rest of us.

MaxBarraclough 7y ago

> I'd be more inclined to think that richer people spend more time and money on their kids This article [0] says your generalisation is correct: > Middle-class and higher-income parents see their children as projects in need of careful cultivation [...] Working-class parents, meanwhile, believe their children will naturally thrive, and give them far greater independence and time for free play. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/upshot/rich-children-and-poor-ones-are-raised-very-differently.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/upshot/rich-children-and-...

candiodari 7y ago
And like any other learning algorithm free-play has "real-world" information, free exploration, creativity. The vast majority of which is very slowly learning what not to do. Most times, that's all that happens. Cultivation, when perfectly executed, provides about 50-50 what to do and not to do. Cultivation results in far faster progress. In deep learning, in reinforcement leearning, and in humans. (reinforcement algorithms are worse actually, they will simply barely make any progress at all until they see a positive example) The problem is that this is really, really not what people want to hear. Free play, freedom to explore, ... results supposedly in happier children, more fulfilling lives, creativity, ... Except ... no it doesn't. It's an empty meaningless long string of failures slowly sapping strength until you fail, with very rare example of great success. It's spending seed corn on a lottery ticket. This is made more difficult by the observation that, yes, eventually, if you do climb to the very top of society you'll be playing the exploration game, without any cultivation, regardless of whether you got there with exploration or cultivation.

deogeo 7y ago

No need to speculate - a quick peek at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ provides the answer: "The heritability of IQ for adults is between 57% and 73%"

mcguire 7y ago
This is why the better classes of people are so much superior to the rest of us.