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How come no one has shot her yet in self-defense?

javagram 7y ago
It’s california, CCW permits are May-Issue (I.e., very rare) and open carry is banned. It’s less likely that assaulting random civilians will get you shot there than in, say, Texas.
- klipt 7y ago
  How about pepper spray? If assaulting random civilians got you pepper sprayed half the time, that might be a deterrent.
  - jopsen 7y ago
    A) Deterrents don't work very well, rarely work at all with desperate people, and far less with people who have mental issues. B) if you end up in a conflict it's always better to run. It's safer for you than to escalate. In sane countries failing to run can invalidate any claim of self-defense. Thus, you'd find yourself on the hook for "armed assult". Even if you state or country is crazy enough to have a "stand your ground" law, you are always better served by running away or de-escalating by other means. Your ego might be hurt, but that is rarely fatal :)
    - CompanionCuuube 7y ago
      Reduced mobility means running away doesn't work very well. :) In sane countries, a victim isn't revictimized by the courts for having the audacity to defend themselves either. :)
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owyn 7y ago
So your solution for homelessness is ... shooting random homeless people? Even "self defense" carries with it a test for proportional response.
- creato 7y ago
  > So your solution for homelessness is ... shooting random homeless people? That's not even remotely what the parent said. Random homeless people != Homeless person assaulting you.
  - jopsen 7y ago
    True, so.... Only shoot the "homeless person assaulting you"... Hmm... I'm not sure that's a lot better, hehehe :) Wouldn't it be easier to just help the homeless person to not be desperate, offer treatment, and home with TV.. (A room with a TV is a cheap way to prevent crime)
- tibiapejagala 7y ago
  Acting like the parent poster suggested shooting random homeless people as a solution for homelessness is disgusting. Defending yourself from a person who hits you in the head with a hard object is reasonable (at least in the rest of the world outside of California), shooting too.

It’s california, CCW permits are May-Issue (I.e., very rare) and open carry is banned. It’s less likely that assaulting random civilians will get you shot there than in, say, Texas.

klipt 7y ago
How about pepper spray? If assaulting random civilians got you pepper sprayed half the time, that might be a deterrent.
- jopsen 7y ago
  A) Deterrents don't work very well, rarely work at all with desperate people, and far less with people who have mental issues. B) if you end up in a conflict it's always better to run. It's safer for you than to escalate. In sane countries failing to run can invalidate any claim of self-defense. Thus, you'd find yourself on the hook for "armed assult". Even if you state or country is crazy enough to have a "stand your ground" law, you are always better served by running away or de-escalating by other means. Your ego might be hurt, but that is rarely fatal :)
  - CompanionCuuube 7y ago
    Reduced mobility means running away doesn't work very well. :) In sane countries, a victim isn't revictimized by the courts for having the audacity to defend themselves either. :)

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owyn 7y ago

So your solution for homelessness is ... shooting random homeless people? Even "self defense" carries with it a test for proportional response.

creato 7y ago
> So your solution for homelessness is ... shooting random homeless people? That's not even remotely what the parent said. Random homeless people != Homeless person assaulting you.
- jopsen 7y ago
  True, so.... Only shoot the "homeless person assaulting you"... Hmm... I'm not sure that's a lot better, hehehe :) Wouldn't it be easier to just help the homeless person to not be desperate, offer treatment, and home with TV.. (A room with a TV is a cheap way to prevent crime)
tibiapejagala 7y ago
Acting like the parent poster suggested shooting random homeless people as a solution for homelessness is disgusting. Defending yourself from a person who hits you in the head with a hard object is reasonable (at least in the rest of the world outside of California), shooting too.