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Icey, I'm presuming you knew that the point of the plan was to educate and remind us all that we're not immune from this kind of thing. So it's quite clear jacq
by phpnode 16y ago
Icey, I'm presuming you knew that the point of the plan was to educate and remind us all that we're not immune from this kind of thing. So it's quite clear jacquesm had no malice here, if he did do you think he'd discuss it so openly? Since you've come out and spoiled this quite valuable opportunity, do you believe your post is in any way more effective at communicating the message than submitting the fake phishing site would have been?
- icey 16y agoThat's how it's being spun now, and perhaps in the email that went out today that I have not been privy to (probably because I voiced my disagreement with the idea at the time). That's not how it was being discussed at the time.
- jacquesm 16y agoAnybody that wants to check up on that, here is the chat log: http://www.freechromelaptop.com/irc.txt http://www.freechromelaptop.com/irc.txt This was in open channel on #startups, I've redacted the names of the other participants.
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- icey 16y agoThis is missing parts of the conversation; but seriously Jacques, I've got no appetite for making this about you. We both agree that it's easy to phish people. I disagreed then and still disagree now that the right way to do that is to embarrass them. If I wanted to "shame" you somehow, I could have easily done that by naming names to begin with. The only intention of this submission was to warn people that you must be careful with your information because you never know who might be out to get it. I don't believe you were out to snag people's financial data, but beyond that it was pretty tough to tell what you were after other than "teaching other people a lesson" (yes, this is paraphrased). I fail to see what positive outcome could occur from essentially pointing and laughing at people because they fell for your scheme. [Edit: I did a bad and edited this comment. Originally it only said "This is missing parts of the conversation", which is what jacquesm is replying to.]
- jacquesm 16y agoIt absolutely is not, that's a 1:1 log of my stuff and no parts were removed other than the lines not spoken by me or referring to me. I don't think posting a full log of the channel is appropriate, if the other people that were there wish to publish their parts with their ids in there that's fine with me.
- icey 16y agoOkay, then why are people responding to me at the bottom of the log when I haven't said anything in it?
- jacquesm 16y agoBecause my name does not appear in those lines, so grep does not show them. Again, I'm not going to post other peoples words without their permission.
- tptacek 16y agoFrom the email he sent out, it was pretty clear that he hoped to do this in good faith. Nevertheless, blunting this stunt with a post was the right thing to do. Everyone should just drop it now.
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