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Write the app in Electron. Problem solved. No more OS overriding your look.

by 781 7y ago

Legogris 7y ago
I can see why the Electron-haters are downvoting you, but you're completely right. Don't build your apps in GTK if you don't want to have overridden GTK configurations affect your UI. I would really like Electron to add an on-by-default standard interface to override CSS rules for Electron apps, though. (I don't have a horse in the Electron-is-great-or-crap race)
- 781 7y ago
  > I would really Electron to add an on-by-default standard interface to override CSS rules for Electron apps That's a hard problem to solve, since there are many ways of styling Electron - Bootstrap/Bulma/Material Design/custom stuff. So it's hard to just override CSS rules. On the other hand, it's the kind of problem perfectly suited for Machine Learning - just take the whole screenshot/image of the app and use a stylistic ML to change it - make it Dark Theme/whatever... I suspect in 10 years OSes will support ML-based automatic themeing/customization of all apps, regardless of what they are written in.
  - Legogris 7y ago
    The exact same argument could be made for web apps, but we still have userChrome.css and userContent.css which solves this neatly.
    - 781 7y ago
      How many are actually using that? I don't know anybody. https://www.ghacks.net/2019/05/24/firefox-69-userchrome-css-and-usercontent-css-disabled-by-default/ https://www.ghacks.net/2019/05/24/firefox-69-userchrome-css-...
      - anoncake 7y ago
        If we remove options just because few people use them, we might as well shut down the Gnome project along with everything else related to the Linux desktop.
- anoncake 7y ago
  This is about free software. If a distribution insists on theming your Electron app, it can do so.
  - Legogris 7y ago
    Sure. Even if I disagree with the letter, no one has asked for disallowing distros to do anything - it's more of a plea than a demand.
    - anoncake 7y ago
      True. It even explicitly says that they don't want to use a technical solution like 781 proposed.
anoncake 7y ago
If the signers of this open letter did not care about quality, they wouldn't have signed it.
- 781 7y ago
  I mean, you either want artistic control, or you want a consistent theme across apps. They want artistic control, thus would be better served by Electron.

Write the app in Electron. Problem solved. No more OS overriding your look.

by 781 7y ago

Write the app in Electron. Problem solved. No more OS overriding your look.

I can see why the Electron-haters are downvoting you, but you're completely right. Don't build your apps in GTK if you don't want to have overridden GTK configurations affect your UI. I would really like Electron to add an on-by-default standard interface to override CSS rules for Electron apps, though. (I don't have a horse in the Electron-is-great-or-crap race)

781 7y ago
> I would really Electron to add an on-by-default standard interface to override CSS rules for Electron apps That's a hard problem to solve, since there are many ways of styling Electron - Bootstrap/Bulma/Material Design/custom stuff. So it's hard to just override CSS rules. On the other hand, it's the kind of problem perfectly suited for Machine Learning - just take the whole screenshot/image of the app and use a stylistic ML to change it - make it Dark Theme/whatever... I suspect in 10 years OSes will support ML-based automatic themeing/customization of all apps, regardless of what they are written in.
- Legogris 7y ago
  The exact same argument could be made for web apps, but we still have userChrome.css and userContent.css which solves this neatly.
  - 781 7y ago
    How many are actually using that? I don't know anybody. https://www.ghacks.net/2019/05/24/firefox-69-userchrome-css-and-usercontent-css-disabled-by-default/ https://www.ghacks.net/2019/05/24/firefox-69-userchrome-css-...
    - anoncake 7y ago
      If we remove options just because few people use them, we might as well shut down the Gnome project along with everything else related to the Linux desktop.
anoncake 7y ago
This is about free software. If a distribution insists on theming your Electron app, it can do so.
- Legogris 7y ago
  Sure. Even if I disagree with the letter, no one has asked for disallowing distros to do anything - it's more of a plea than a demand.
  - anoncake 7y ago
    True. It even explicitly says that they don't want to use a technical solution like 781 proposed.

anoncake 7y ago

If the signers of this open letter did not care about quality, they wouldn't have signed it.

781 7y ago
I mean, you either want artistic control, or you want a consistent theme across apps. They want artistic control, thus would be better served by Electron.