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FUD in my view because this is about access to specs not use in end products. The interesting issue here, though is why is the SD Association an American entit

FUD in my view because this is about access to specs not use in end products. The interesting issue here, though is why is the SD Association an American entity althougn it was originally setup by Japanese firms? I think we're also going to see a push by China to change the game in that area.

ddingus 7y ago
Are there not specific access modes that do require a license / royalty? It is true anyone can use an SD card. But displaying the logo, as well as some access protocols are controlled. Things like 1 bit serial vs 4 bits, may mean "unofficial" = slow For small scale, say custom embedded, small run stuff, nobody cares. But at the smart phone level?
- NikkiA 7y ago
  Given that they already have those specs for the 'licensed' modes, it's irrelevant, unless the SD assoc. is going to release a new version of the SD standard specifically just to ensure huawei don't have the spec for it, and then make all other SD licensees force using this upgrade; all to validate trump's trade war. Such a move would very likely backfire on the US.
  - ddingus 7y ago
    It is not a technical restriction, but a legal one. They are no longer licensed to use the more efficient comms. Those specs are not hard to get. They can, of course, use them, and can be hauled into court for doing so without paying royalties. Same for displaying the logo.
    - NikkiA 7y ago
      If they're banned from doing business with american companies why would they give a shit about the legality of their SD license?
      - sixothree 7y ago
        And if SD Association releases new standard, possible fractures in adoption.
        ddingus 7y ago
        Could happen. Hope it does not.
clouddrover 7y ago
You need the SD Association license as well as the other licenses. See the flowchart on the SD Association's licensing page and see SD-3C's FAQ: https://www.sd-3c.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.aspx https://www.sd-3c.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.aspx
NikkiA 7y ago
> why is the SD Association an American entity Short answer: because SanDisk were/are an american corporation, and were the most influential part of the trio in the early days.

ddingus 7y ago

Are there not specific access modes that do require a license / royalty? It is true anyone can use an SD card. But displaying the logo, as well as some access protocols are controlled. Things like 1 bit serial vs 4 bits, may mean "unofficial" = slow For small scale, say custom embedded, small run stuff, nobody cares. But at the smart phone level?

NikkiA 7y ago
Given that they already have those specs for the 'licensed' modes, it's irrelevant, unless the SD assoc. is going to release a new version of the SD standard specifically just to ensure huawei don't have the spec for it, and then make all other SD licensees force using this upgrade; all to validate trump's trade war. Such a move would very likely backfire on the US.
- ddingus 7y ago
  It is not a technical restriction, but a legal one. They are no longer licensed to use the more efficient comms. Those specs are not hard to get. They can, of course, use them, and can be hauled into court for doing so without paying royalties. Same for displaying the logo.
  - NikkiA 7y ago
    If they're banned from doing business with american companies why would they give a shit about the legality of their SD license?
    - sixothree 7y ago
      And if SD Association releases new standard, possible fractures in adoption.
      - ddingus 7y ago
        Could happen. Hope it does not.

clouddrover 7y ago

You need the SD Association license as well as the other licenses. See the flowchart on the SD Association's licensing page and see SD-3C's FAQ: https://www.sd-3c.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.aspx https://www.sd-3c.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.aspx

NikkiA 7y ago

> why is the SD Association an American entity Short answer: because SanDisk were/are an american corporation, and were the most influential part of the trio in the early days.