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If your life is entirely oriented around hoarding as much money & power as possible, then sure, what you said it's true. But the world is filled with billions o

If your life is entirely oriented around hoarding as much money & power as possible, then sure, what you said it's true. But the world is filled with billions of regular people finding meaning in an average, good-enough life. The world runs on the backs of ordinary, unexceptional people like you & me.

knolax 7y ago
> If your life is entirely oriented around hoarding as much money & power Why do people have to always denigrate wanting money and power? It's an intrinsic desire to want power and resources. If somebody finds happiness that way why disparage them?
- dwaltrip 7y ago
  Excessive desire for money and power alone is generally viewed as anti-social and possibly even pathological. Of course, figuring out what is "excessive" may be contentious, especially if one also has other good intentions that come along for the ride and help balance things out (e.g. philanthropy, strong ethical boundaries).
- tmpfs 7y ago
  If you look closely enough you would see that the attainment of wealth and power definitely does not bring happiness. In order to know this an individual needs to experience both ends of the spectrum and have the ability to clearly introspect and compare both experiences.
- Haga 7y ago
  Because it's the same way unfullfilling as a drug addiction. Sure you have miles instead of needles and dots on the suit instead on the veins, but in the end you miss the one thing that matters-passing a legacy, influencing other life's in a good direction, for a socially acceptable Trainspotting reenactment.
  - Chickenosaurus 7y ago
    I am not sure I fully agree with you, but you put it beautifully. You have a real way with words.
- sorokod 7y ago
  What makes it intrinsic you think?
- jjdjr0odo7 7y ago
  The rest of us do not owe fealty and deference to their desires? If the rest of us find happiness not being under the thumb of someone else why should we capitulate to their happiness at the expense of our own? The economy is a shared resource that depends on a majority buy-in to function (I mean the dollar trade economy, where we have to agree on dollars being valid). Why cede a larger chunk to power mongers when it clearly creates inequality and suffering for others? What about their happiness? So sad for these mega millionaires and billionaires that they might have to only be low millionaires Is that the new meme? We used to be told defer to God and monarchs. Now it’s economists. Next it’s going to be “just let them be happy”? Chasing that sense of power and glory as an emotional thing is one thing. Literally having it over large groups of people is another. Did you even think about that question or just lean into the social meme that’s been drilled into your head? This forum is at peak rich first worlders. So disconnected from real suffering it validates bad actors in the general sense because hey life is still pretty cushy.
- c0vfefe 7y ago
  There's a big difference between wanting money & power, and "hoarding as much" as possible, as I said. It depends on your value system, but most people place a non-zero value on showing love to others & bettering the world, and a money-hoarder doesn't do that.

knolax 7y ago

> If your life is entirely oriented around hoarding as much money & power Why do people have to always denigrate wanting money and power? It's an intrinsic desire to want power and resources. If somebody finds happiness that way why disparage them?

dwaltrip 7y ago
Excessive desire for money and power alone is generally viewed as anti-social and possibly even pathological. Of course, figuring out what is "excessive" may be contentious, especially if one also has other good intentions that come along for the ride and help balance things out (e.g. philanthropy, strong ethical boundaries).
tmpfs 7y ago
If you look closely enough you would see that the attainment of wealth and power definitely does not bring happiness. In order to know this an individual needs to experience both ends of the spectrum and have the ability to clearly introspect and compare both experiences.
Haga 7y ago
Because it's the same way unfullfilling as a drug addiction. Sure you have miles instead of needles and dots on the suit instead on the veins, but in the end you miss the one thing that matters-passing a legacy, influencing other life's in a good direction, for a socially acceptable Trainspotting reenactment.
- Chickenosaurus 7y ago
  I am not sure I fully agree with you, but you put it beautifully. You have a real way with words.
sorokod 7y ago
What makes it intrinsic you think?
jjdjr0odo7 7y ago
The rest of us do not owe fealty and deference to their desires? If the rest of us find happiness not being under the thumb of someone else why should we capitulate to their happiness at the expense of our own? The economy is a shared resource that depends on a majority buy-in to function (I mean the dollar trade economy, where we have to agree on dollars being valid). Why cede a larger chunk to power mongers when it clearly creates inequality and suffering for others? What about their happiness? So sad for these mega millionaires and billionaires that they might have to only be low millionaires Is that the new meme? We used to be told defer to God and monarchs. Now it’s economists. Next it’s going to be “just let them be happy”? Chasing that sense of power and glory as an emotional thing is one thing. Literally having it over large groups of people is another. Did you even think about that question or just lean into the social meme that’s been drilled into your head? This forum is at peak rich first worlders. So disconnected from real suffering it validates bad actors in the general sense because hey life is still pretty cushy.
c0vfefe 7y ago
There's a big difference between wanting money & power, and "hoarding as much" as possible, as I said. It depends on your value system, but most people place a non-zero value on showing love to others & bettering the world, and a money-hoarder doesn't do that.