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It would result in us not approving the project/vendor at all. edit: We(citizens) don't like being spied on, and it just rubs salt in the wound that we have to

It would result in us not approving the project/vendor at all. edit: We(citizens) don't like being spied on, and it just rubs salt in the wound that we have to pay for it.

jstanley 7y ago
Given that this is literally only useful for tracking people, not approving the project would be ideal.
- Retra 7y ago
  Tracking people is like 90% of what every organization does. It's why we have names, phone numbers, addresses, id numbers, license plates, etc. "Tracking people = bad" is an untenable assumption.
  - savethefuture 7y ago
    Well go ahead and dox yourself right here for us.
    - Retra 7y ago
      Perhaps I'm not being clear. "Tracking people involuntarily" might be bad. "Tracking people unnecessarily" might be bad. But they will be bad because they are involuntary and unnecessary, not because they are tracking people.
      - komali2 7y ago
        Ok, I argue then that all tracking of people is unnecessary.
        Retra 7y ago
        Are you going to actually argue it, or are you just going to tease? It means nothing to me that you would disagree in some vague manner.
    - stale2002 7y ago
      My username is associated with my real life identity and would be trivial for people to look me up. I am already "doxxed" and it doesn't bother me.
      - phnowned 7y ago
        Who gets born in 2001 or whatever. 2002, I meant. You must feel embarrassed now. Jk
      - torified 7y ago
        I don't see it anywhere. Where does it list your personal info?
        stale2002 7y ago
        It's easily googleable, man. In 5 minutes you could find my LinkedIn info, and then know exactly who I am and where I work.
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bqqyz 7y ago
If you think 0% of the citizenry supports scanning licence plates that cross the border, I have bad news for you.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  The overwhelming majority of people are probably ok with recording plates at the border. If it's confined to the border it's not really any different than the customs agent jotting down your license plate. It's also not really "tracking", it's just a record created at that single point. It's the whole network that makes it "tracking" It's the record keeping everywhere else and tracking that that enables that's not ok.
  - sneak 7y ago
    Jotting down on paper is not the same as aggregated and uploaded to an open ftp server.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  I honestly support license plate readers on most roads, if they were used for average speed measurements and in conjunction with automated ticketing of people speeding.

It would result in us not approving the project/vendor at all. edit: We(citizens) don't like being spied on, and it just rubs salt in the wound that we have to pay for it.

jstanley 7y ago

Given that this is literally only useful for tracking people, not approving the project would be ideal.

Retra 7y ago
Tracking people is like 90% of what every organization does. It's why we have names, phone numbers, addresses, id numbers, license plates, etc. "Tracking people = bad" is an untenable assumption.
- savethefuture 7y ago
  Well go ahead and dox yourself right here for us.
  - Retra 7y ago
    Perhaps I'm not being clear. "Tracking people involuntarily" might be bad. "Tracking people unnecessarily" might be bad. But they will be bad because they are involuntary and unnecessary, not because they are tracking people.
    - komali2 7y ago
      Ok, I argue then that all tracking of people is unnecessary.
      - Retra 7y ago
        Are you going to actually argue it, or are you just going to tease? It means nothing to me that you would disagree in some vague manner.
  - stale2002 7y ago
    My username is associated with my real life identity and would be trivial for people to look me up. I am already "doxxed" and it doesn't bother me.
    - phnowned 7y ago
      Who gets born in 2001 or whatever. 2002, I meant. You must feel embarrassed now. Jk
    - torified 7y ago
      I don't see it anywhere. Where does it list your personal info?
      - stale2002 7y ago
        It's easily googleable, man. In 5 minutes you could find my LinkedIn info, and then know exactly who I am and where I work.

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bqqyz 7y ago

If you think 0% of the citizenry supports scanning licence plates that cross the border, I have bad news for you.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
The overwhelming majority of people are probably ok with recording plates at the border. If it's confined to the border it's not really any different than the customs agent jotting down your license plate. It's also not really "tracking", it's just a record created at that single point. It's the whole network that makes it "tracking" It's the record keeping everywhere else and tracking that that enables that's not ok.
- sneak 7y ago
  Jotting down on paper is not the same as aggregated and uploaded to an open ftp server.
TeMPOraL 7y ago
I honestly support license plate readers on most roads, if they were used for average speed measurements and in conjunction with automated ticketing of people speeding.