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> Made me realize just how much talent is behind these technologies and I still shake my head at how much money is generated with this and how little of that ma

> Made me realize just how much talent is behind these technologies and I still shake my head at how much money is generated with this and how little of that makes it's way back to the developers at the core of it. If it's any consolation, not much more makes it to the talented developers in commercial products, either. It mainly ends up going to executives and sales.

nojvek 7y ago
Demand and supply right. How many of these developers started a profit sharing company? As a dev you sign up your life to work for another company where you trade time for money. You sign on that sheet. That's the contract. The company can make bazillions off you but that's the deal you signed. I really really hope with the recent IPOS, all the devs that made good money end up doing startups that are more employee friendly than VC friendly. But then, this is the ugly world we live in. The selfish gene yo!
winter_blue 7y ago
I think in New York and California at least, developers are getting paid closer to what their work is worth. Salaries are often hitting the $300k ballpark for highly talented developers. Average pay itself is now around a $150k. I think it's primarily developers in other countries[1] that are getting severely underpaid. Hopefully that changes in the coming years. [1] The most egregious example might be India. Around 7 years ago, I was on a plane from Kerala (a state in India), and the guy sitting next to me happened to run a software consulting company (in Kerala). His customers were from Japan and some other countries (can't remember), and his company wrote Linux drivers for proprietary hardware. He hired kids right out of college. I asked him how much he paid them, and he said without blinking, Rs. 15000 per month. Type in "INR 15000 to USD" to Google, and you're in for a shock. It's around $2600 per year, but probably closer to $3000 per year at the exchange rates back then. American developers doing the same job could earn up to 100 times that, and at the very least 40 times that amount. I can't understand why on Earth salaries are 40 to a 100 times higher for the same exact work, and for work that could be done by anyone anywhere on the globe, but I hope this massive difference in pay converges and disappears soon.
- spease 7y ago
  What kind of developers are you referring to? I’ve noticed a huge discrepancy between companies and industries.

nojvek 7y ago

Demand and supply right. How many of these developers started a profit sharing company? As a dev you sign up your life to work for another company where you trade time for money. You sign on that sheet. That's the contract. The company can make bazillions off you but that's the deal you signed. I really really hope with the recent IPOS, all the devs that made good money end up doing startups that are more employee friendly than VC friendly. But then, this is the ugly world we live in. The selfish gene yo!

winter_blue 7y ago

I think in New York and California at least, developers are getting paid closer to what their work is worth. Salaries are often hitting the $300k ballpark for highly talented developers. Average pay itself is now around a $150k. I think it's primarily developers in other countries[1] that are getting severely underpaid. Hopefully that changes in the coming years. [1] The most egregious example might be India. Around 7 years ago, I was on a plane from Kerala (a state in India), and the guy sitting next to me happened to run a software consulting company (in Kerala). His customers were from Japan and some other countries (can't remember), and his company wrote Linux drivers for proprietary hardware. He hired kids right out of college. I asked him how much he paid them, and he said without blinking, Rs. 15000 per month. Type in "INR 15000 to USD" to Google, and you're in for a shock. It's around $2600 per year, but probably closer to $3000 per year at the exchange rates back then. American developers doing the same job could earn up to 100 times that, and at the very least 40 times that amount. I can't understand why on Earth salaries are 40 to a 100 times higher for the same exact work, and for work that could be done by anyone anywhere on the globe, but I hope this massive difference in pay converges and disappears soon.

spease 7y ago
What kind of developers are you referring to? I’ve noticed a huge discrepancy between companies and industries.