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And why is it ridiculous exactly? Where do you think the next frontier is? Do you think that humanity, which has warred with itself for its entire existence, i

And why is it ridiculous exactly? Where do you think the next frontier is? Do you think that humanity, which has warred with itself for its entire existence, is going to stop warring with itself when it’s living in space? If so, I have a wall to sell you. Do you not want the US to have a military presence up there? Do you want the US to take a backseat while China and Russia build out their own military capabilities in space? You’re like a person in the 1400s laughing at a country for building a navy.

blackguardx 7y ago
The Air Force already does the job that the Space Force is supposed to do. Creating another military branch would duplicate a lot of administrative functions and not be very cost effective, IMHO.
- taftster 7y ago
  > "If established, it would be organized as a military service branch within the Department of the Air Force, one of the three military departments within the Department of Defense." [1] So yes, any new military service branch is going to have overhead. But the Air Force already provides the structure and overhead for the space initiatives The Space Force is more about formalizing (and potentially funding) this branch of the AF separately from the main budget of the AF. There will still be a little additional overhead, but not really like you're implying. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force
  - Rebelgecko 7y ago
    Another perspective— that "little bit of overhead" for starting up the Space Force is almost as large as NASA's annual budget. At least that's if you believe the budget numbers from Heather Wilson (outgoing secretary of the Air Force). Unfortunately, I doubt that standing up a new military service is something that the government would actually be able to accomplish without going over budget.
maxxxxx 7y ago
Instead of getting into a new weapons race I would prefer more effort into negotiating an international agreement to not weaponize space. The stance of the US in the past few years seemed to be to produce more weapons than anybody else and not negotiate.
anigbrowl 7y ago
If so, I have a wall to sell you. Ha ha, only a rube would believe in a grift like a wall, the smart set are over here with the guy running the Wall scam to finance his real 'insider' project, the 'Space Force' which is totally legitimate and not at all a procurement bonanza. Sure there's a treaty about the non-militarization of space but let's ignore that and pretend it's already obsolete, while we also pretend that the air force hasn't been handling our Sekrit Space Stuff just fine for decades.

blackguardx 7y ago

The Air Force already does the job that the Space Force is supposed to do. Creating another military branch would duplicate a lot of administrative functions and not be very cost effective, IMHO.

taftster 7y ago
> "If established, it would be organized as a military service branch within the Department of the Air Force, one of the three military departments within the Department of Defense." [1] So yes, any new military service branch is going to have overhead. But the Air Force already provides the structure and overhead for the space initiatives The Space Force is more about formalizing (and potentially funding) this branch of the AF separately from the main budget of the AF. There will still be a little additional overhead, but not really like you're implying. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Space_Force
- Rebelgecko 7y ago
  Another perspective— that "little bit of overhead" for starting up the Space Force is almost as large as NASA's annual budget. At least that's if you believe the budget numbers from Heather Wilson (outgoing secretary of the Air Force). Unfortunately, I doubt that standing up a new military service is something that the government would actually be able to accomplish without going over budget.

maxxxxx 7y ago

Instead of getting into a new weapons race I would prefer more effort into negotiating an international agreement to not weaponize space. The stance of the US in the past few years seemed to be to produce more weapons than anybody else and not negotiate.

anigbrowl 7y ago

If so, I have a wall to sell you. Ha ha, only a rube would believe in a grift like a wall, the smart set are over here with the guy running the Wall scam to finance his real 'insider' project, the 'Space Force' which is totally legitimate and not at all a procurement bonanza. Sure there's a treaty about the non-militarization of space but let's ignore that and pretend it's already obsolete, while we also pretend that the air force hasn't been handling our Sekrit Space Stuff just fine for decades.