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After this fiasco, I'm more than ever willing to change to Huawei. Best yet if they change to a platform not based on Android. I'm done with Google (and Android

After this fiasco, I'm more than ever willing to change to Huawei. Best yet if they change to a platform not based on Android. I'm done with Google (and Android soon) in every possible way.

novaRom 7y ago
As first step I switched from terrible Android TV to WebOs and it's absolutely amazing OS. I wonder why nobody is using it in smartphones.
- untog 7y ago
  Apps. That, to me, seems like the real barrier for any new smartphone platform. It happened with Windows Phone, a platform backed by a huge company and even using a very popular language and platform. I think WebOS and Firefox OS were before their time a little given the rise of progressive web apps, but I still don't think they're a complete answer until they can use native UI elements.
- HillaryBriss 7y ago
  yeah. this discussion seems to mix up android's success as an ecosystem and android's quality as an OS and a technical achievement. android's large market share is attributable to many things beyond the software itself, which, in any case, owes a heavy debt to Linux. replacing android as an ecosystem will require enticing a large 3rd party developer base to write apps. the worldwide android developer community is full of developers eager to you know, like, make actual money on their apps. if Huawei can create a new app marketplace where that happens for these developers, they should be able to attract abundant talent. they should imitate Apple, not Google.
- krackers 7y ago
  >WebOs and it's absolutely amazing OS. I wonder why nobody is using it in smartphones. It used to be [1], but was a victim of HP's incompetence. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre
NicoJuicy 7y ago
Uh, so an app store without: Netflix, YouTube, WhatsApp, Facebook, Gmail, Outlook, Chromecast, Dropbox, OneDrive, YouTube, Twitter, Google search ( or duck duck go), Amazon, Amazon video, 2fa authenticator, iftt, Wikipedia, Skype, messenger, Snapchat, Instagram, Waze, Google maps, Ted, Wolfram Alpha, ... I'm pretty sure there is one of them that you use recurringly. You're going to use that OS? The only Chinese app I use is eWelink and I really want to flash that device to be more flexible and dump it.
- worble 7y ago
  Most of those have functioning websites you know? All you'd need is a half decent browser.
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Not everyone uses them.
  - NicoJuicy 7y ago
    Not all of them, some of them :) I'm just pointing out the "most regular used"
- JohnFen 7y ago
  > You're going to use that OS? I would. Nothing in that list is indispensable to me.
- ptx 7y ago
  You don't need apps for Google search, Wikipedia or Amazon, and I don't think this ban is going to extend to blocking websites for western consumers using Huawei devices. The others I don't use, so it would be OK for me.
  - NicoJuicy 7y ago
    Eg: Google is paying for being the default search-engine. So Baidu will be the default search engine on any browser that will be used ( since they can pay).

After this fiasco, I'm more than ever willing to change to Huawei. Best yet if they change to a platform not based on Android. I'm done with Google (and Android soon) in every possible way.

novaRom 7y ago

As first step I switched from terrible Android TV to WebOs and it's absolutely amazing OS. I wonder why nobody is using it in smartphones.

untog 7y ago
Apps. That, to me, seems like the real barrier for any new smartphone platform. It happened with Windows Phone, a platform backed by a huge company and even using a very popular language and platform. I think WebOS and Firefox OS were before their time a little given the rise of progressive web apps, but I still don't think they're a complete answer until they can use native UI elements.
HillaryBriss 7y ago
yeah. this discussion seems to mix up android's success as an ecosystem and android's quality as an OS and a technical achievement. android's large market share is attributable to many things beyond the software itself, which, in any case, owes a heavy debt to Linux. replacing android as an ecosystem will require enticing a large 3rd party developer base to write apps. the worldwide android developer community is full of developers eager to you know, like, make actual money on their apps. if Huawei can create a new app marketplace where that happens for these developers, they should be able to attract abundant talent. they should imitate Apple, not Google.
krackers 7y ago
>WebOs and it's absolutely amazing OS. I wonder why nobody is using it in smartphones. It used to be [1], but was a victim of HP's incompetence. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Pre

NicoJuicy 7y ago

Uh, so an app store without: Netflix, YouTube, WhatsApp, Facebook, Gmail, Outlook, Chromecast, Dropbox, OneDrive, YouTube, Twitter, Google search ( or duck duck go), Amazon, Amazon video, 2fa authenticator, iftt, Wikipedia, Skype, messenger, Snapchat, Instagram, Waze, Google maps, Ted, Wolfram Alpha, ... I'm pretty sure there is one of them that you use recurringly. You're going to use that OS? The only Chinese app I use is eWelink and I really want to flash that device to be more flexible and dump it.

worble 7y ago
Most of those have functioning websites you know? All you'd need is a half decent browser.
pjmlp 7y ago
Not everyone uses them.
- NicoJuicy 7y ago
  Not all of them, some of them :) I'm just pointing out the "most regular used"
JohnFen 7y ago
> You're going to use that OS? I would. Nothing in that list is indispensable to me.
ptx 7y ago
You don't need apps for Google search, Wikipedia or Amazon, and I don't think this ban is going to extend to blocking websites for western consumers using Huawei devices. The others I don't use, so it would be OK for me.
- NicoJuicy 7y ago
  Eg: Google is paying for being the default search-engine. So Baidu will be the default search engine on any browser that will be used ( since they can pay).