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Your sentiment is popular this days with the big propaganda we see but is there any hint that what you say is true, maybe they stole it from other company or ma
by simion314 7y ago
Your sentiment is popular this days with the big propaganda we see but is there any hint that what you say is true, maybe they stole it from other company or maybe in a country with such a large population you will have a large number of smart people.
- njepa 7y agoAlso it doesn't really matter since the implementation is close to 20 years old, which means the patents should have expired anyway.
- simion314 7y agoPatents are such a pain, I know someone that works in designing things for cars, and they need to actively avoid patents, things that are obvious and were patented you have to do not obvious things so you don't trip on them.
- christkv 7y agoOf course it’s propaganda the shocking thing is not that they are pushing for a China is bad story. It’s that they pretended it was not happening for the last decades eroding industries and blue collar jobs putting us in today’s situation where a totalitarian state governs most electronics manufacturing of the world including most of the supply chain.
- mlang23 7y agoI find it particularily morbid that both countries that seemingly fight over the tech leadership on thsi planet both have the death penalty. Makes it hard to make out the moral winner watching from afar :-( Also, given all the bad spying rep the US has, I am really not sure what is better: a US phone or a China phone... Both seem a very good way to get fucked over.
- christkv 7y agoYeah definitively, the US is no angel that's for sure but its still aligned with democratic values (at least for now).
- mlang23 7y agoDemocratic values? As in, the one who receives the most votes will win the election?
- christkv 7y agoFew western countries have a majority votes takes all system, that does not necessarily make them undemocratic. Both Spain and Norway that I know we'll have proportional systems where the number of votes are not necessarily aligned with the number of seats in parliament. A vote in one region might be worth more than another. Proportional systems are designed from what I understand to balance the power between the populous cities and the country side.
- mlang23 7y agoWhich I consider outright discrimination. Why exactly would the vote of one individual be less or more worth then a vote from another individual?
- christkv 7y agoI don't make a judgment call towards if one is better than the other but I do firmly believe that 50% + 1 vote is not a mandate. I would really like to see a proper 2/3 majority before you let someone impose their will on the other group. Proportional representation has one interesting side effect it seems. You get more political parties in parliament leaving lunatic fringe groups their own parties and allowing the centre mostly to rule.
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- frostburg 7y agoThere are lawsuits involving the issue, as another comment reports. Jumping to ''big propaganda'' is unwarranted.
- simion314 7y agoThanks I did not know about that, would be good if this would have been added into the initial comment.
- yorwba 7y agoThe lawsuit in the other comment doesn't involve Siemens though, hence "maybe they stole it from other company" might be more accurate.
- paganel 7y agoThe train the OP mentions has a maximum speed of 420 kmh, I'd say the Chinese did a hell of a job to build this train which supposedely can reach 600 kmh, there's no train in Europe that can reach that, not even the French TGV. As someone else mentioned bellow only the Japanese are close to building a similar train. Which is to say that this is a hell of an achievement by the Chinese.
- ForHackernews 7y agoImagine getting accused of 'propaganda' for being sceptical of an article published by an official press organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China.
- simion314 7y agoI was not accusing the OP but the entire media, for months we have China is bad stories on the first page daily, before that was all about the Saudi Arabia and before that there was Russia (I do not remember what was before that). I prefer to ask for the actual information, someone said there is a lawsuit but did not link anything so far, this is what I wanted, less speculation and a bit more facts.
- christkv 7y agoI don’t understand the apologists either. This is not a lovely democratic state it’s probably histories most successful authoritarian gangster state in modern history. A future with an ascendant China wielding global military power is not going to be nice for anyone.
- simion314 7y agoAnd to fix that let's do what ? a) spy on our citizens, on our alleys, use demagogy, propaganda and anti-science b) do what we want others to do and we say we do c) find a reason and just attack them(or similar shit), put our preferred government
- christkv 7y agoUphold our liberal western values and insist on the rule by law and compliance with treaties, leveraging all the soft power available to ensure it. In China, there is no freedom of speech or expression (only what's tolerated by the state). Laws only exist for convenience and are ignored when the state finds it inconvenient or if they decide to punish and individual or group of indidviduals. History should have thought us a lesson that appeasement does not work with authoritarian regimes as it will be interpreted as a sign of weakness.
- anoncake 7y ago> with such a large population you will have a large number of smart people. Nine mothers don't make a baby in a month.