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> If you're thinking of climbing Everest: just don't. Climb some other mountain. There are lots of them. Let's leave this one be. No. That is ridiculous, I hav

by lagadu 7y ago

> If you're thinking of climbing Everest: just don't. Climb some other mountain. There are lots of them. Let's leave this one be. No. That is ridiculous, I have as much right to climb it as anyone else, if it pleases me I'll do it. Like you said, there are lots of mountains so I can choose this particular one like I would any other.

OskarS 7y ago
You do not own Mount Everest, you have no right to it. I don't know why you think this, but that is delusional. You can go there because the Nepal allows it, but it is in no way your "right" to do so. Becoming an adult is recognizing you cannot do every thing that pleases you. Besides, I was speaking in a moral sense, not a legal sense. What your rights are is not a relevant question. If preserving natural wonders is not a moral prerogative for you, then we're just going to have to disagree on that point.
- lagadu 7y ago
  I meant moral right too, of course the country has the right to regulate who and when anyone gets to visit. Thankfully as of the time of this post they're fine with you and I going there. That said: our morals are clearly different and I will do nothing but mock any attempts of any individual to impose their morals on anyone else.
- clarky07 7y ago
  If everyone stops climbing it, who are we saving it for? Who is going to see the natural wonder? I certainly agree that we should do the best we can to preserve it and others like it, but it doesn't really make sense to say, well no one should go there so that it stays nice. Who cares if it's nice if no one can go there?
- kinkrtyavimoodh 7y ago
  And what right do you have to ask him to not climb it? It's one thing to ask for consideration, it's another to sermonize about how others are delusional while engaging in the same obnoxious behavior yourself. On a broader topic, the fact that it happens to be geographically located in Nepal does give the country the legal right to dictate who visits it, but let's not delude ourself into thinking that translates into a moral right. The Everest belongs to all of humanity, it's a physical feature and if you want to make it sound like everyone's responsibility, it ought to be considered everyone's asset too.

by lagadu 7y ago

OskarS 7y ago

You do not own Mount Everest, you have no right to it. I don't know why you think this, but that is delusional. You can go there because the Nepal allows it, but it is in no way your "right" to do so. Becoming an adult is recognizing you cannot do every thing that pleases you. Besides, I was speaking in a moral sense, not a legal sense. What your rights are is not a relevant question. If preserving natural wonders is not a moral prerogative for you, then we're just going to have to disagree on that point.

lagadu 7y ago
I meant moral right too, of course the country has the right to regulate who and when anyone gets to visit. Thankfully as of the time of this post they're fine with you and I going there. That said: our morals are clearly different and I will do nothing but mock any attempts of any individual to impose their morals on anyone else.
clarky07 7y ago
If everyone stops climbing it, who are we saving it for? Who is going to see the natural wonder? I certainly agree that we should do the best we can to preserve it and others like it, but it doesn't really make sense to say, well no one should go there so that it stays nice. Who cares if it's nice if no one can go there?
kinkrtyavimoodh 7y ago
And what right do you have to ask him to not climb it? It's one thing to ask for consideration, it's another to sermonize about how others are delusional while engaging in the same obnoxious behavior yourself. On a broader topic, the fact that it happens to be geographically located in Nepal does give the country the legal right to dictate who visits it, but let's not delude ourself into thinking that translates into a moral right. The Everest belongs to all of humanity, it's a physical feature and if you want to make it sound like everyone's responsibility, it ought to be considered everyone's asset too.