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Consider that they placed Gilles Bordelais, a man who as an EU parliament committee determined sexually harassed women in multiple cases, on their list in Germa

Consider that they placed Gilles Bordelais, a man who as an EU parliament committee determined sexually harassed women in multiple cases, on their list in Germany before voting for the German pirate party: https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/german-parliament-administration-failed-to-address-sexual-harrassment-says-julia-reda-former-rising-star-of-germany-pirate-party/ https://www.euractiv.com/section/digital/news/german-parliam...

YUMad 7y ago
Can you state openly what did he exactly do, or at least link to somewhere where its stated? Ill bet it amounts to 'inappropriate remarks' and that not stating exactly what it is, instead using the 'sexual harassment' doublespeak is just a FUD tool to attempt to sabotage the Pirate Party.
- nostalgk 7y ago
  https://www.patrick-breyer.de/?p=575559 https://www.patrick-breyer.de/?p=575559 Here's a link to what seems to be the party's response. From my reading, possibly tainted by translation, he agreed to step down if the European Parliament's Consultative Committee on Harassment at Work found that he had engaged in harassment, they did, and he resigned, but they were unable to remove him from the list due to regulations. While I can't seem to find an account of what exactly transpired, it does appear that the European Parliament's Consultative Committee on Harassment at Work concluded that something did indeed transpire that falls under sexual harassment.
- kryptokommunist 7y ago
  It’s hard to find official details (I guess they keep them private to protect the victims?) but this looks like reasonably trustworthy source: http://mab.nu/2018/11/16/a-friend-called-niles/ http://mab.nu/2018/11/16/a-friend-called-niles/ But even without details looking at Julia Redas track record and the fact that the German pirate party and European pirate party distanced themselves from him suggests more than a minor error in judgement. It’s unbelievable that he could successfully trick his party so he could get on the candidates list as number 2. And he will be there on election day! This is no FUD but something they have to blame on themselves. (That blog entry is linked in this Buzzfeed article: https://www.buzzfeed.com/de/pascalemueller/europawahl-piratenpartei-sexuelle-belaestigung https://www.buzzfeed.com/de/pascalemueller/europawahl-pirate... )
- detaro 7y ago
  Who are you claiming is attempting to sabotaging the pirate party?
  - YUMad 7y ago
    I didn't claim specifically who.
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LifeLiverTransp 7y ago
To be perfectly honest- i do not look at the person any more. I only look at promises and outcomes. Power and Money corrupt absolutly, so i dont even want to waste time on the displays of those with rigid morals. They usually do not accomplish anything, cause any move could bring down the little statue of themselves they put up as example. I rather have a rupt to the core bastard, which still prevents a catastrophic climate change, because he game of thrones whole industries.
- asdf21 7y ago
  Is game of throning entire industries going to replant the Rainforest in Brazil? Cause that's the only way climate change is going to slow down..
blattimwind 7y ago
This made the pirate party unelectable for me in this election. I haven't yet settled on a replacement, quite a large number of contenders.
- luckylion 7y ago
  Why? That wasn't known when the voting lists were made, and when it came out, they weren't able to remove him, because lists cannot be changed once finalized. There's just nothing they can do because that's the law. I mean, I'm certainly not going to vote for them because they are far, far away from me politically, but imho their reaction to the whole affair was correct and shouldn't be held against them.
Iv 7y ago
I'd be voting for another party if I was voting in Germany.

YUMad 7y ago

Can you state openly what did he exactly do, or at least link to somewhere where its stated? Ill bet it amounts to 'inappropriate remarks' and that not stating exactly what it is, instead using the 'sexual harassment' doublespeak is just a FUD tool to attempt to sabotage the Pirate Party.

nostalgk 7y ago
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/?p=575559 https://www.patrick-breyer.de/?p=575559 Here's a link to what seems to be the party's response. From my reading, possibly tainted by translation, he agreed to step down if the European Parliament's Consultative Committee on Harassment at Work found that he had engaged in harassment, they did, and he resigned, but they were unable to remove him from the list due to regulations. While I can't seem to find an account of what exactly transpired, it does appear that the European Parliament's Consultative Committee on Harassment at Work concluded that something did indeed transpire that falls under sexual harassment.
kryptokommunist 7y ago
It’s hard to find official details (I guess they keep them private to protect the victims?) but this looks like reasonably trustworthy source: http://mab.nu/2018/11/16/a-friend-called-niles/ http://mab.nu/2018/11/16/a-friend-called-niles/ But even without details looking at Julia Redas track record and the fact that the German pirate party and European pirate party distanced themselves from him suggests more than a minor error in judgement. It’s unbelievable that he could successfully trick his party so he could get on the candidates list as number 2. And he will be there on election day! This is no FUD but something they have to blame on themselves. (That blog entry is linked in this Buzzfeed article: https://www.buzzfeed.com/de/pascalemueller/europawahl-piratenpartei-sexuelle-belaestigung https://www.buzzfeed.com/de/pascalemueller/europawahl-pirate... )
detaro 7y ago
Who are you claiming is attempting to sabotaging the pirate party?
- YUMad 7y ago
  I didn't claim specifically who.
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LifeLiverTransp 7y ago

To be perfectly honest- i do not look at the person any more. I only look at promises and outcomes. Power and Money corrupt absolutly, so i dont even want to waste time on the displays of those with rigid morals. They usually do not accomplish anything, cause any move could bring down the little statue of themselves they put up as example. I rather have a rupt to the core bastard, which still prevents a catastrophic climate change, because he game of thrones whole industries.

asdf21 7y ago
Is game of throning entire industries going to replant the Rainforest in Brazil? Cause that's the only way climate change is going to slow down..

blattimwind 7y ago

This made the pirate party unelectable for me in this election. I haven't yet settled on a replacement, quite a large number of contenders.

luckylion 7y ago
Why? That wasn't known when the voting lists were made, and when it came out, they weren't able to remove him, because lists cannot be changed once finalized. There's just nothing they can do because that's the law. I mean, I'm certainly not going to vote for them because they are far, far away from me politically, but imho their reaction to the whole affair was correct and shouldn't be held against them.

Iv 7y ago

I'd be voting for another party if I was voting in Germany.