And if they extend that attitude even further and overthrow the government, what then? The parent poster's stance is the correct one to have: make no plans for

And if they extend that attitude even further and overthrow the government, what then? The parent poster's stance is the correct one to have: make no plans for SS to exist, so if it does, you're just in a little better shape than you expected. Most people who post on HN will experience a negative ROI on the money they paid into SS, unless they live well into their 90s.