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>For nearly all of us in the US I live in one of the poorer countries. I know not a single person with a paid subscription of any kind. qBittorrent with an RS

>For nearly all of us in the US I live in one of the poorer countries. I know not a single person with a paid subscription of any kind. qBittorrent with an RSS feed is miles ahead of any paid offer anyway.

Iv 7y ago
Ssshhh! Maybe if we don't tell them they won't get to us!
Jonnax 7y ago
So what funding model do you agree with? Since you getting for free means somebody is paying otherwise more of what you consume won't be made. So if everyone decided to torrent, there won't be a market.
- Endy 7y ago
  I disagree. The market would shift. We would see a very clear split between talented and passionate amateurs creating for the joy of creation and large soulless productions which release only behind paywalls. Frankly, I'm all in favor of "artist" being a hobby and not a career.
  - Jonnax 7y ago
    The joy of creation doesn't pay the bills or put food on the table. Most people working a full time job barely have free time.
    - Endy 7y ago
      You are correct, and what you state with disparaging feeling, I state with glee. The joy of creation should not put food on the table. You should have to work like the rest of us. If you have no time, make time and budget to create in the time you do get.
      - deleted 7y ago
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      - Jonnax 7y ago
        You've an inflated sense of the importance and value of the work you do. As well as trying to pretend that creativity is not work. At the same time you talk about pirating so you feel entitled to have the fruit of other people's labour whilst saying it has no value. Gleeful in your hypocrisy. Why are you on this website to discuss technology? Most things made are pointless rubbish going off your definition. What do you do for a living that in your opinion is actually worth money?
- r3bl 7y ago
  $5 means a lot more to someone who earns $5 in a day. Look, if the companies are willing to look into a minimum wage and median salary when crafting prices for different countries, we might be easily convinced. Do you know how much stuff you have available in Netflix? Now imagine having a choice between pirating and paying the same price as you do in a developed country for like 30% of the US catalogue. All that while earning much, much less.
  - Jonnax 7y ago
    Regional pricing is a thing. In fact many deal sites go into how to pay less for streaming services via VPN.
    - Mirioron 7y ago
      You do get a majorly diminished catalogue though.
- asdff 7y ago
  One that doesn't make the MPAA cartel filthy rich. I'd love to pay creators directly for content, but the model is set up to pay the boardroom enormous sums of cash vs. what the people actively working on the production recieve. Very very rarely does a movie not make money. Even flops make money years after release. The latest avengers movie cost 356m to make, including everyone's salary on the film. It made the studios 2.63 billion. There is no investment in the world that can give you that kind of return. Was that 2.3b in profit split among the cast and crew? Absolutely not. It was feasted upon by the executives of walt disney, those poor deserving souls.
  - brokenmachine 7y ago
    I think the argument is that for every latest Avengers movie, there are 10 movies that didn't make any money.
    - sgift 7y ago
      With Hollywood accounting there is no way to proof this and well .. with all the shady things the movie industry and their cronies did over the years they kind of lost the "but you should trust us on this" position. Maybe if we fixed it we could have a real discussion about what makes money and what doesn't.
      - brokenmachine 7y ago
        100% agree, I'm just saying the argument. Honestly I couldn't care less if Hollywood goes away with it's predictable formulaic cookie cutter focus-group movies. It would be nice to see more movies where a director has an actual artistic vision and sees it through. You don't need a billion dollars to make a movie with a good story, developed characters and good acting.
vonseel 7y ago
:( I'm sorry :/

Iv 7y ago

Ssshhh! Maybe if we don't tell them they won't get to us!

Jonnax 7y ago

So what funding model do you agree with? Since you getting for free means somebody is paying otherwise more of what you consume won't be made. So if everyone decided to torrent, there won't be a market.

Endy 7y ago
I disagree. The market would shift. We would see a very clear split between talented and passionate amateurs creating for the joy of creation and large soulless productions which release only behind paywalls. Frankly, I'm all in favor of "artist" being a hobby and not a career.
- Jonnax 7y ago
  The joy of creation doesn't pay the bills or put food on the table. Most people working a full time job barely have free time.
  - Endy 7y ago
    You are correct, and what you state with disparaging feeling, I state with glee. The joy of creation should not put food on the table. You should have to work like the rest of us. If you have no time, make time and budget to create in the time you do get.
    - deleted 7y ago
      [deleted]
    - Jonnax 7y ago
      You've an inflated sense of the importance and value of the work you do. As well as trying to pretend that creativity is not work. At the same time you talk about pirating so you feel entitled to have the fruit of other people's labour whilst saying it has no value. Gleeful in your hypocrisy. Why are you on this website to discuss technology? Most things made are pointless rubbish going off your definition. What do you do for a living that in your opinion is actually worth money?
r3bl 7y ago
$5 means a lot more to someone who earns $5 in a day. Look, if the companies are willing to look into a minimum wage and median salary when crafting prices for different countries, we might be easily convinced. Do you know how much stuff you have available in Netflix? Now imagine having a choice between pirating and paying the same price as you do in a developed country for like 30% of the US catalogue. All that while earning much, much less.
- Jonnax 7y ago
  Regional pricing is a thing. In fact many deal sites go into how to pay less for streaming services via VPN.
  - Mirioron 7y ago
    You do get a majorly diminished catalogue though.
asdff 7y ago
One that doesn't make the MPAA cartel filthy rich. I'd love to pay creators directly for content, but the model is set up to pay the boardroom enormous sums of cash vs. what the people actively working on the production recieve. Very very rarely does a movie not make money. Even flops make money years after release. The latest avengers movie cost 356m to make, including everyone's salary on the film. It made the studios 2.63 billion. There is no investment in the world that can give you that kind of return. Was that 2.3b in profit split among the cast and crew? Absolutely not. It was feasted upon by the executives of walt disney, those poor deserving souls.
- brokenmachine 7y ago
  I think the argument is that for every latest Avengers movie, there are 10 movies that didn't make any money.
  - sgift 7y ago
    With Hollywood accounting there is no way to proof this and well .. with all the shady things the movie industry and their cronies did over the years they kind of lost the "but you should trust us on this" position. Maybe if we fixed it we could have a real discussion about what makes money and what doesn't.
    - brokenmachine 7y ago
      100% agree, I'm just saying the argument. Honestly I couldn't care less if Hollywood goes away with it's predictable formulaic cookie cutter focus-group movies. It would be nice to see more movies where a director has an actual artistic vision and sees it through. You don't need a billion dollars to make a movie with a good story, developed characters and good acting.

vonseel 7y ago

:( I'm sorry :/