My office mate at Stanford used to say the same thing, fwiw. I’ve got a good retort: grilling in San Francisco. As people said, usually you layer these under s

My office mate at Stanford used to say the same thing, fwiw. I’ve got a good retort: grilling in San Francisco. As people said, usually you layer these under say a ski jacket to keep your core warmer without losing arm mobility. In the amusing case of grilling, I actually don’t want a garment picking up the smoke/smells either.