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Yeah, I never got this American Disdain for the State and regulations. Everything - health, pension, parental benefits, environmental restraint, repression of

by eecc 7y ago

Yeah, I never got this American Disdain for the State and regulations. Everything - health, pension, parental benefits, environmental restraint, repression of discrimination - ends up in the domain of corporate benevolence, the whims of the market and of shareholders. If it’s not in the Law, it's just corporate marketing

dnautics 7y ago
It exists because the American government (or governments writ large around the world anyway) have had a poor track record of regulating things ethically. For example, the us government has not done a great job of ethically regulating native Americans, or, ethically regulating terrorism abroad, or maybe in more quotidian and economic terms, regulating the sale of loose cigarettes. It baffles the mind that one would want the same entity responsible for such large scale horrors responsible for deciding educational policy. If you don't want to involve regulations resulting in people dying, we can look at regulating interior decorating, or hair braiding, neither of which was conducted in the public interest. Can you name the last 2000 regulations that have been enacted in the us? Can you be sure all of them were in the public interest?
- Duckeh 7y ago
  Regardless of how well the democracy your government is based on is functioning, I have a rather hard time imagining that a corporation focused on maximizing shareholder profit would do anything better than a piss-poor job for the vast majority of the population.
  - dnautics 7y ago
    there's a wide amount of space between 'regulation by government' and 'regulation by corporations'
- Xelbair 7y ago
  Option A: Government regulation, sometimes fails(Article 7 and 11), sometimes get things right(GDPR). Option B: Corporate entity self-regulates in favor of profit. consumer is screwed. Corporations regulate not for public interest, but for profit, sometimes it happens that those two are aligned - but that is an exception - not a norm.

by eecc 7y ago

dnautics 7y ago

It exists because the American government (or governments writ large around the world anyway) have had a poor track record of regulating things ethically. For example, the us government has not done a great job of ethically regulating native Americans, or, ethically regulating terrorism abroad, or maybe in more quotidian and economic terms, regulating the sale of loose cigarettes. It baffles the mind that one would want the same entity responsible for such large scale horrors responsible for deciding educational policy. If you don't want to involve regulations resulting in people dying, we can look at regulating interior decorating, or hair braiding, neither of which was conducted in the public interest. Can you name the last 2000 regulations that have been enacted in the us? Can you be sure all of them were in the public interest?

Duckeh 7y ago
Regardless of how well the democracy your government is based on is functioning, I have a rather hard time imagining that a corporation focused on maximizing shareholder profit would do anything better than a piss-poor job for the vast majority of the population.
- dnautics 7y ago
  there's a wide amount of space between 'regulation by government' and 'regulation by corporations'
Xelbair 7y ago
Option A: Government regulation, sometimes fails(Article 7 and 11), sometimes get things right(GDPR). Option B: Corporate entity self-regulates in favor of profit. consumer is screwed. Corporations regulate not for public interest, but for profit, sometimes it happens that those two are aligned - but that is an exception - not a norm.