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Gotta say, for anyone worried about the surveillance state and stuff, NYC is the perfect city. Through a unique combination of a dense, diverse, super populated

Gotta say, for anyone worried about the surveillance state and stuff, NYC is the perfect city. Through a unique combination of a dense, diverse, super populated metropolis and pure incompetence, you really can disappear in the crowds.

YayamiOmate 7y ago
Should it happen, it will be funny, when NYC will want to buy Chinese Public surveillance system in the name of improving security. I can imagine at least some testing if relations improve and stabilise a bit.
- Simple_Guy 7y ago
  >when NYC will want to buy Chinese Public surveillance system Which was probably made in NY
newsbinator 7y ago
> you really can disappear in the crowds ... we assume
maxaf 7y ago
That’s simply not true anymore. Our NYPD operates the so-called “Domain Awareness System”, which is a combination of good old database connected to terminals in patrol cars and precincts, as well as metadata-rich security cameras. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Awareness_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Awareness_System The system doesn’t get talked about very much, but even regular patrolmen are trained to use it effectively. It’s built to accommodate a variety of use cases ranging from tactical support (“suspect headed north on Amsterdam Ave, but then we lost him - where did he go?”) to general investigative duties (“who usually comes by this store on Mondays at 9am?”) and, based on what I’ve heard from cops, works really well.
- bo1024 7y ago
  And what about Stingrays tracking cell phones?
- milquetoastaf 7y ago
  And yet they still can't find who stole my bike or who stops the trains
yellowstuff 7y ago
They caught the Times Square bomber 2 days after the attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_attempt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_... Also took 2 days from the first attack to catch the NYC/NJ bomber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_New_York_and_New_Jersey_bombings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_New_York_and_New_Jersey_b... He was caught sleeping on the street at 10:30 AM, so maybe not exactly a master of evasion, but still, 2 days to catch him ain't bad. He was caught 2 hours after the police sent an alert to people's phones by someone who got the alert, but not too quickly for Anil Dash to criticize the alert as useless: https://twitter.com/anildash/status/777849637592006656 https://twitter.com/anildash/status/777849637592006656
knolax 7y ago
Have you been to NYC recently? These things[0] are everywhere and have at least two cameras installed. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/technology/personaltech/are-the-free-wi-fi-kiosks-on-new-york-streets-safe.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/technology/personaltech/a...

YayamiOmate 7y ago

Should it happen, it will be funny, when NYC will want to buy Chinese Public surveillance system in the name of improving security. I can imagine at least some testing if relations improve and stabilise a bit.

Simple_Guy 7y ago
>when NYC will want to buy Chinese Public surveillance system Which was probably made in NY

newsbinator 7y ago

> you really can disappear in the crowds ... we assume

maxaf 7y ago

That’s simply not true anymore. Our NYPD operates the so-called “Domain Awareness System”, which is a combination of good old database connected to terminals in patrol cars and precincts, as well as metadata-rich security cameras. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Awareness_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Awareness_System The system doesn’t get talked about very much, but even regular patrolmen are trained to use it effectively. It’s built to accommodate a variety of use cases ranging from tactical support (“suspect headed north on Amsterdam Ave, but then we lost him - where did he go?”) to general investigative duties (“who usually comes by this store on Mondays at 9am?”) and, based on what I’ve heard from cops, works really well.

bo1024 7y ago
And what about Stingrays tracking cell phones?
milquetoastaf 7y ago
And yet they still can't find who stole my bike or who stops the trains

yellowstuff 7y ago

They caught the Times Square bomber 2 days after the attack: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_attempt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Times_Square_car_bombing_... Also took 2 days from the first attack to catch the NYC/NJ bomber: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_New_York_and_New_Jersey_bombings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_New_York_and_New_Jersey_b... He was caught sleeping on the street at 10:30 AM, so maybe not exactly a master of evasion, but still, 2 days to catch him ain't bad. He was caught 2 hours after the police sent an alert to people's phones by someone who got the alert, but not too quickly for Anil Dash to criticize the alert as useless: https://twitter.com/anildash/status/777849637592006656 https://twitter.com/anildash/status/777849637592006656

knolax 7y ago

Have you been to NYC recently? These things[0] are everywhere and have at least two cameras installed. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/technology/personaltech/are-the-free-wi-fi-kiosks-on-new-york-streets-safe.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/technology/personaltech/a...