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This quote reeks of self-righteousness. Western corporations have done as much harm as they could get away with to make a quick buck as well. Jordan Peterson i

This quote reeks of self-righteousness. Western corporations have done as much harm as they could get away with to make a quick buck as well. Jordan Peterson is an individual who seems like he struggled to make sense of the world according to his Christian/Pure-Capitalistic view of the world and decided to concoct wild self-righteous theories to justify his bias rather than change his viewpoint. The only thing he has going for him is that he speaks with extreme confidence. My advide to you: choose a better messiah to save you from whatever disillusionment you are going through.

reallydude 7y ago
> decided to concoct wild self-righteous theories to justify his bias rather than change his viewpoint To what? Is there a "right" answer that would serve someone better? It's always going to appear self-righteous when you justify your own worldview. The utility of JP's views, is why other people adopt it, not some fictional "messianic cult". JP's reasoning has flaws and gaps as with all people. Even the utility is from other historical wisdom, not his own, repackaged into a story. Easily digestable and as rational as any other I have seen.
- frequentnapper 7y ago
  >Easily digestable and as rational as any other I have seen. Maybe you need to see more then.
- andrekandre 7y ago
  > Even the utility is from other historical wisdom, not his own, repackaged into a story. Easily digestable and as rational as any other I have seen. but that doesn’t necessarily make them true
  - reallydude 7y ago
    What does "true" mean in this context? A belief system isn't true in any sense, nor is it practical to have a full knowledge of reality (enough to have rigid axioms about human behavior), so what's the goalpost here?
heybrendan 7y ago
> Western corporations have done as much harm as they could get away with to make a quick buck as well. I'm in agreement (for the most part)--historically speaking. I never said that this was purely relegated to China, although the topic of the article is indeed China. I'll also take this opportunity to remind you about HN commenting guidelines [1], specifically when disagreeing to try to "reply to the argument", as opposed to calling names--or in your specific case implying emotional states or assumptions on worship. I will share that I find it unfortunate that you seem generally opposed to Dr. Peterson's works: his Maps of Meaning (1999)[2], for instance, contains powerful ideas that cannot be easily dismissed. Finally, humans are complex creatures. We can easily find an argument intrinsically stimulating and academically fascinating whilst simultaneously not feeling disillusionment. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [2] https://www.amazon.com/Maps-Meaning-Architecture-Jordan-Peterson/dp/0415922224 https://www.amazon.com/Maps-Meaning-Architecture-Jordan-Pete...
- hobs 7y ago
  Anyone should be opposed to his works, he's a dog whistle artist and his brand of intellectual pablum really shouldn't be quoted in an intellectual forum.
  - heybrendan 7y ago
    This comment adds very little to the discussion. Could you provide some examples?

reallydude 7y ago

> decided to concoct wild self-righteous theories to justify his bias rather than change his viewpoint To what? Is there a "right" answer that would serve someone better? It's always going to appear self-righteous when you justify your own worldview. The utility of JP's views, is why other people adopt it, not some fictional "messianic cult". JP's reasoning has flaws and gaps as with all people. Even the utility is from other historical wisdom, not his own, repackaged into a story. Easily digestable and as rational as any other I have seen.

frequentnapper 7y ago
>Easily digestable and as rational as any other I have seen. Maybe you need to see more then.
andrekandre 7y ago
> Even the utility is from other historical wisdom, not his own, repackaged into a story. Easily digestable and as rational as any other I have seen. but that doesn’t necessarily make them true
- reallydude 7y ago
  What does "true" mean in this context? A belief system isn't true in any sense, nor is it practical to have a full knowledge of reality (enough to have rigid axioms about human behavior), so what's the goalpost here?

heybrendan 7y ago

> Western corporations have done as much harm as they could get away with to make a quick buck as well. I'm in agreement (for the most part)--historically speaking. I never said that this was purely relegated to China, although the topic of the article is indeed China. I'll also take this opportunity to remind you about HN commenting guidelines [1], specifically when disagreeing to try to "reply to the argument", as opposed to calling names--or in your specific case implying emotional states or assumptions on worship. I will share that I find it unfortunate that you seem generally opposed to Dr. Peterson's works: his Maps of Meaning (1999)[2], for instance, contains powerful ideas that cannot be easily dismissed. Finally, humans are complex creatures. We can easily find an argument intrinsically stimulating and academically fascinating whilst simultaneously not feeling disillusionment. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [2] https://www.amazon.com/Maps-Meaning-Architecture-Jordan-Peterson/dp/0415922224 https://www.amazon.com/Maps-Meaning-Architecture-Jordan-Pete...

hobs 7y ago
Anyone should be opposed to his works, he's a dog whistle artist and his brand of intellectual pablum really shouldn't be quoted in an intellectual forum.
- heybrendan 7y ago
  This comment adds very little to the discussion. Could you provide some examples?