I would agree with you entirely and I think that the history of both capitalism and communism have demonstrated that we are not at a level yet where we can desi

I would agree with you entirely and I think that the history of both capitalism and communism have demonstrated that we are not at a level yet where we can design a socio-economic system to make it not matter whether we are good to each other and in fact, they are both likely, in different ways, to sometimes distort and amplify some of the worst parts of our animal natures. I have found it a certainty on HN that at some point, in any discussion of these things, that someone will step in and say "but this is legal, and the corporation must maximize its profits for the shareholders, so if you really want a change, change the laws, the company itself is utterly amoral and working as designed"