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How is it possible to do such things and not to be caught? Don't they have cameras in the stations?
by codedokode 7y ago
How is it possible to do such things and not to be caught? Don't they have cameras in the stations?
- ng12 7y agoIncompetence and poor maintenance is the MTA standard.
- xfitm3 7y agoCameras are dense in stations, not dense in tunnels. Keep in mind that some of the facts are likely withheld to protect the investigation.
- astura 7y agoThe suspect appears to use the tunnels to escape, not the stations >Then, he disappears, most likely through the subway tunnels and out an emergency exit.
- codedokode 7y agoBut they have to get into the tunnel first, probably from the station. If anyone is able to enter the tunnel from outside, then it is dangerous, because they can put a bomb or a crowbar on the rails.
- moltar 7y agoWell then why aren’t there cameras in the tunnels?
- greenyoda 7y agoThe cameras are probably deployed to prevent crime, and there's very little crime in the tunnels because very few people are stupid enough to risk their lives by entering them. Besides, the tunnels are dimly lit.
- smogcutter 7y agoThere are a great many more people in the tunnels than you may think: https://www.amazon.com/Mole-People-Life-Tunnels-Beneath/dp/155652241X https://www.amazon.com/Mole-People-Life-Tunnels-Beneath/dp/1... That said, you're absolutely right that cameras in the tunnels would be pointless. It's dark!
- astura 7y agoThere's 220 miles of subway tunnels (though not all are underground). On top of that one can simply just use a dollar store ski mask to avoid camera identification.
- jasonhansel 7y agoShouldn't those emergency exits trigger some sort of alarm??
- frosted-flakes 7y agoThe emergency exits in the stations used to, and the signs still say "alarm will sound if opened", but they were disabled around 2014 because there were too many false alarms. Mostly because the emergency exit doors are also used for strollers, luggage, etc. that can't fit through the turnstile, or as a general exit when there's a large group of people exiting. Case Neistat did a New York Times Op-ed video on YouTube about it, before they were disabled: https://youtu.be/aUcP5OD-ctQ https://youtu.be/aUcP5OD-ctQ
- morpheuskafka 7y agoWhy couldn't they just program an employee ID badge to open the door silently and let the employee open the door for bulk items?
- hanniabu 7y agoYou'd be paying somebody to stand there all day at multiple points for each station. This isn't a situation that happens once a half hour, it's every minute or so.
- frosted-flakes 7y agoThe alarms are at unmanned stations, which have ceiling-height turnstiles. The doors get used every few minutes.
- ummwhat 7y agoWrong emergency exit. What they meant was the emergency exits from the tunnels themselves, which are located halfway between each pair of stations and lead directly to the street via unassuming yellow hatches in the sidewalk.
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- jazzyjackson 7y agoFrom a 2010 article, "...nearly half of the subway system’s 4,313 security cameras that have been installed — in stations and tunnels throughout the system — do not work..." From riding the MTA I imagine its actually a very challenging environment between the leaking mystery fluids and the electronic noise, but of course I don't mean to take the blame off the multi-billion dollar organization that should be able to handle installing some security cameras, but the infrastructure is just falling apart in every way. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/nyregion/30subway.html https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/nyregion/30subway.html Some good comments on Bruce Schneier's blog too: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/03/security_camera_1.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/03/security_came...
- solarengineer 7y agoI'm regularly astounded about how the U.S. has so much money in general, but can/won't invest in betterment of its citizens (current and future) because it's either self serving or in a state of decline.
- bradleyjg 7y agoFor the MTA specifically it isn't a matter of money. They are so insanely inefficient and poorly run that the entire NY + NYC budget wouldn't be enough without serious reform.
- yardie 7y agoThe money is there, we have the largest federal budget on the planet. It’s just tied up in endless wars, incarcerations, and pork barrel projects. And those things individually aren’t necessarily bad but we do it with such largesse it leaves very little room for anything else. The way our politics work is no one can plan multi decade projects if you can’t do it in one term then don’t bother.
- amanaplanacanal 7y agoThe US is terrible about infrastructure maintenance. I think it's a combination of two things: Firstly nobody gets their picture taken cutting a ribbon for a maintenance project, and secondly if infrastructure is crappy then nobody wants to pay more taxes because obviously the government doesn't know how to take care of things. It's a double whammy of failure.
- greenyoda 7y agoThe MTA, which runs the LIRR and Metro North commuter railroads as well as the subways, has recently been installing surveillance cameras inside the LIRR trains. I expect they'll be coming to the subways soon.
- dajohnson89 7y agoyayyy can't wait