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Explicate, por favor?

by aston 18y ago

astrec 18y ago
Why do you take the time to comment? For me, there has been an emotional response. Perhaps you moved me, taught me, or led me down the path to another discovery. Or maybe you're so wrong I've just got to give you the benefit of my wisdom! Why leave a tip where there is no social imperative? I suspect for many of the same reasons you'd comment. Tipjoy benefits from the reach of Disqus who in turn benefit from an product greater than the sum of it's parts. Revenue share opportunity here. As an aside: Perhaps a tip is a more meaningful digg; you've got some skin in the game. I wonder what the front page of hacker news would look like if you had to tip to up vote a submission.
- aston 18y ago
  The tip-for-tat idea for the front page of news.yc is a pretty cute one. As to your general point, though, I think you should tip for provision of value. Sure, often the value provided is an argument which might merit discussion, but the thing that ties Disqus and Tipjoy together isn't actually the content itself but the blog format. If anything, Disqus is just a distribution channel that works well in the blogosphere, which I guess is reason that they should team up, but it doesn't add much value to Disqus, and Tipjoy would probably appreciate being thought of as more broad than a "tip your blogger" platform.
  - astrec 18y ago
    I was very careful not to mention blogs specifically. All sorts of content stimulates emotional responses and thus comment - photos, comics, software, articles, and yes, blog posts. As a feedback mechanism the "blog format" is de rigueur. Fifteen years ago you would have sent an email. Disagree that Tipjoy doesn't add value to Disqus simply because comments are so often a statement of appreciation - local customs aside, that's what a tip is too. Appreciation of the value provisioned, if you prefer. What you get is distribution channel for Tipjoy and a product enhancement and revenue slice for Disqus. Another aside: Tipping of high value comments would be possible. There are plenty of times the OP has been light on value but the comment stream is a gem - we see it on HN all the time.
- stcredzero 18y ago
  Leave a tip to vote up? I really like this idea! I think that everything that's free gets abused in some way. (Garret Hardin's Tragedy of the Commons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons) If upvotes were micropayments, a lot of gaming would just stop. There would still be individual gaming of the system, but it would be a lot less. The problem would be PR flacks abusing the system. This could be fought with a well thought out Terms of Service and the right social pressures coming from the user community.

Explicate, por favor?

by aston 18y ago

Explicate, por favor?

Why do you take the time to comment? For me, there has been an emotional response. Perhaps you moved me, taught me, or led me down the path to another discovery. Or maybe you're so wrong I've just got to give you the benefit of my wisdom! Why leave a tip where there is no social imperative? I suspect for many of the same reasons you'd comment. Tipjoy benefits from the reach of Disqus who in turn benefit from an product greater than the sum of it's parts. Revenue share opportunity here. As an aside: Perhaps a tip is a more meaningful digg; you've got some skin in the game. I wonder what the front page of hacker news would look like if you had to tip to up vote a submission.

aston 18y ago
The tip-for-tat idea for the front page of news.yc is a pretty cute one. As to your general point, though, I think you should tip for provision of value. Sure, often the value provided is an argument which might merit discussion, but the thing that ties Disqus and Tipjoy together isn't actually the content itself but the blog format. If anything, Disqus is just a distribution channel that works well in the blogosphere, which I guess is reason that they should team up, but it doesn't add much value to Disqus, and Tipjoy would probably appreciate being thought of as more broad than a "tip your blogger" platform.
- astrec 18y ago
  I was very careful not to mention blogs specifically. All sorts of content stimulates emotional responses and thus comment - photos, comics, software, articles, and yes, blog posts. As a feedback mechanism the "blog format" is de rigueur. Fifteen years ago you would have sent an email. Disagree that Tipjoy doesn't add value to Disqus simply because comments are so often a statement of appreciation - local customs aside, that's what a tip is too. Appreciation of the value provisioned, if you prefer. What you get is distribution channel for Tipjoy and a product enhancement and revenue slice for Disqus. Another aside: Tipping of high value comments would be possible. There are plenty of times the OP has been light on value but the comment stream is a gem - we see it on HN all the time.
stcredzero 18y ago
Leave a tip to vote up? I really like this idea! I think that everything that's free gets abused in some way. (Garret Hardin's Tragedy of the Commons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons) If upvotes were micropayments, a lot of gaming would just stop. There would still be individual gaming of the system, but it would be a lot less. The problem would be PR flacks abusing the system. This could be fought with a well thought out Terms of Service and the right social pressures coming from the user community.