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OK. Correlation does not imply causation, or something... So, San Francisco still votes 8% Republican. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_San_Francisco
by xrd 7y ago
OK. Correlation does not imply causation, or something...
So, San Francisco still votes 8% Republican. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_San_Francisco https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_San_Francisco
Is it possible that there are a majority of people in SF that support changing their city and are Democrats? And, that a small minority of people (who could be Rs or Ds) can effectively block legislation to change housing laws? I'm not sure this article proves it is all "liberals" doing it, just that a) lots of liberals live in SF and b) SF has been ineffective at tackling the housing crisis ("...a place where lots of liberals live! QED!!!").
Having said this, my mom considers herself very liberal, and still has signs up on her lawn saying "Preserve Historic Houses" (which means "I don't support tearing down houses in my neighborhoods to build higher density places").
BUT: I do think she would be open to changing her mind. I'm not sure someone that lives in SF and that agrees with
Trump's approach to immigration would be open to changing their mind. Is that biased of me?
- bdittmer 7y agoNope. There is no vast right wing conspiracy to prevent affordable housing. I don’t want to jump to conclusions but I’m guessing you don’t live in SF or California?
- xrd 7y agoI never said there was a "vast right wing conspiracy" nor did I imply that. You are the only person saying that and thinking that in this thread. You don't want to jump to conclusions, but you already did, didn't you? I wrote: "... that a small minority of people (who could be Rs or Ds) can effectively block legislation to change housing laws." How did you turn that into a vast right wing conspiracy UNLESS you already felt that "someone out there" already thinks that (well before my post)?
- xrd 7y agoNone of my statements ever said that I think Republicans have a right wing conspiracy to prevent affordable housing. I am refuting the assertion made by the article that says Liberals are to blame. I think it is more complicated. I point out that there are voters in SF who vote Republican. DOWNVOTES because I must be saying Republicans are to blame. Hint: I never said that, nor do I believe that. I point out that people that align with Trump's immigration policy that live in SF might not be open minded about changing their mind. DOWNVOTES because I must be saying Republicans are not open minded. Hint: I never said that, nor do I believe that. Hint: downvoters, you aren't reading carefully. And, if there is a hint of people making assumptions about who you are, and you are angry, and it is translating into downvotes, then you have some introspection work to do.
- xrd 7y agoFor the record, I do appreciate you actually explaining your thinking. It's not accurate thinking given what I wrote, and it displays courage to write up and not just click the downvote button.