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I had IT band and hamstring attachment tendinitis. I went to the best orthopedic doctor in the city. I explained my symptoms very clearly. He did identify the I

I had IT band and hamstring attachment tendinitis. I went to the best orthopedic doctor in the city. I explained my symptoms very clearly. He did identify the IT band tendinitis and walked out of the room. I had to catch him "after the appointment" to ask him why the back of my knee hurts then. He THEN did additional tests and identified the other source of the problem. This is my experience, always. At best, the doctor confirms the problem if I prod them toward it. I have some pain on the top of my feet now that I am running pretty fast. I am almost sure when I go to the doc they will give me a bs answer. Shit, last time I had a pulled muscle in my back some doctor wrote "damaged disk" because he needed to put something on the paper to send me to his friend's physical therapy place. I then had to go to another doctor and get an MRI to prove that I don't, in fact, have disk damage, which would otherwise mess up my insurance rates. I know I sound very bitter, but I find doctors literally worse than useless in most cases.

natejenkins 7y ago
Did you manage to heal the IT band tendinitis and if so, what did you do?
- ohaideredevs 7y ago
  https://www.verywellfit.com/thmb/cy7HrWq1zrKCGwQtQQjGbAG46PY=/1500x1000/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/FINAL_VWFitFitnessAnnotations2-5ba3f35f4cedfd00250bcd98.jpg https://www.verywellfit.com/thmb/cy7HrWq1zrKCGwQtQQjGbAG46PY... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lsvCMffkmKM/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lsvCMffkmKM/maxresdefault.jpg https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/resting-muscles-royalty-free-image-605773558-1548948149.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.752xh;0,0.0938xh&resize=480:* https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images... All for 3x45s holds. Don't overdo it to the point where you are sore from stretching. I also stretched my hamstrings and hip flexors. I do believe that it's all related. Specifically, I know that hip flexor tightness and weak glutes can put more strain on the IT band. You can strengthen glutes with planks, glute bridges, and step ups.
jtdev 7y ago
Yup, as is evidenced by the opioid genocide... I mean epidemic. I do know some exceptional doctors, but WTF happened to cause so many to forget the hippocratic oath?
- Infernal 7y ago
  Can't help but point out that your misspelling of Hippocratic made it more similar to hypocrisy, which is ironic to say the least.
asark 7y ago
An unfortunate amount of my interaction with doctors has just been waiting for them to diagnose me or a family member with the same thing I already figured out is probably going on, so we can get the drugs or treatment to fix it. Self-diagnosis on with the Web has a bad name for a good reason, but with a critical eye you can nail what the doctor's gonna say damn near 100% of the time, or at least narrow it down to the couple things they'll run tests to decide between. It's kinda fun but also kinda sad knowing everything they're gonna say and order in advance because you read stuff on the Web for 10 minutes before the visit. Obviously never let on that you've done that. The best are when you go through a couple and they can't figure out WTF is wrong and you finally get one who's like "oh yeah, I can't believe they didn't check for this, circumstances and your symptoms make it pretty likely and it's not uncommon" and you're like "yeah, I f*cking know, I read some Wikipedia before the first visit and have just been walking you all through the process of figuring it out, while I pay you for the privilege, but I can't push too hard or you'll think I'm a crank".
- ibeckermayer 7y ago
  Doctors in America are certified members of a caste system. In traditional caste systems, your caste was determined by blood (for example it might work like: if your dad was a doctor, you could be a doctor) but in contemporary society we’ve replaced these with government licensed caste systems: if you’ve paid your dues and gone through the certification process imposed by the alphabet soup of government bureaucracy and special interest lobbyists, you’re allowed to be a doctor; anybody who hasn’t gone through this process will be arrested if they attempt to provide medical services. Predictably, the violently enforced caste system allows all manner of incompetence and impunity to reign free — if the legistlatively enforced educational / certification standards are letting total incompetents slip through the cracks, tough luck. You can try to change them through the democratic process, but the current members of the caste have massive influence on these institutions and a vested interest in keeping it just the way it is: extremely expensive for us in exchange for minimal standards of quality for them. This outcome is entirely predictable: independent thought is the basis of all knowledge, so when a group outlaws it in some branch of human endeavor, there’s no mystery as to why that branch of the endeavor becomes fraudulent. I’m admittedly being somewhat obtuse here, since thanks to the genius of the first amendment I’m still free to think whatever I want about the medical caste and complain about it on the internet. What’s restricted are the actions I can take — for example if I wanted to build “Lambda School for Doctors”, I couldn’t legally do so without following all of the educational/certification protocols imposed on us through legislation by the status quo medical caste (which defeats the whole purpose). But because actions are downstream from ideas (thoughts) about how to act, restricting individual’s actions in this way is importantly similar to restricting freedom of thought, and has analogous consequences. Until we reform our laws to allow all adults offer and accept non-fraudulent (this qualifier demands deeper discussion about the proper legal standard of “fraudulent”) medical services, our hands are effectively tied in even beginning to address the issue.
scruple 7y ago
> ... but I find doctors literally worse than useless in most cases. Yeah, same here. My hot take is: if you're not an elite athlete then you're basically shit out of luck and you are on your own, regardless of how much money you might be capable and/or interested in spending on your problems. I have retrocalcaneal bursitis and a chronic muscle tear in my left calf. I ran through nearly a dozen people, specialists and physical therapists and physiotherapists, and no one could help. They wanted to give me cortisone injections in my heel or sent me to the ER for DVT for the calf. I spent a lot of money to _not_ be helped by these people over a period of 4 or 5 years. I eventually found a legit physiotherapist (he works with some local athletes... MMA fighters and a couple of NHL players, so there it is) who wasn't just out to take my money from me. Through him, the chronic muscle tear is now managed completely (when I feel it coming back, I give him a call and pop in for a few sessions of excruciating deep cross-friction massage that keeps me exercising without needing breaks) and the bursitis is managed entirely by myself through a daily stretching and mobility routine that he helped me develop. I am honestly concerned about what happens to me in the future. If he retires or moves or if I move. If I have new minor/major injuries to contend with at that point then I'm going to be back to this dreadful search or worse, having to give up specific exercises that I enjoy. edit/ Oh, and another horror story that I managed to forget about. I popped 2 ribs last fall (brain fog, was lifting too heavy while I was tired and just trying to grind a workout out) and couldn't get it properly diagnosed either. Went to my GP, he thought it was a muscle strain. Sure, okay. I believed him. So, I had a week long backpacking trip 3 days later that I ended up going on anyway. Hurt like hell. I knew it wasn't a strain by the time I got home. Popped in to see my physiotherapist and he was able to isolate and diagnose the issue in just a couple of minutes. How can my GP miss this? You literally rub your fingers between my shoulder blade and spine and it was as clear as day. I went to a Chiropractor for a few sessions, in addition to some rehab at home like rolling on a racquet ball, and now everything is back to normal. This sort of shit, "professionals" who are utterly horrible at their chosen profession, borders on fraud for me.
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Sharlin 7y ago
Physiotherapists are not doctors, and doctors are not physiotherapists. So I'm not sure why you're replying to the GP.
- Dirlewanger 7y ago
  Referrals to specialists from GPs/PCPs are often needed for insurance to cover visits.

natejenkins 7y ago

Did you manage to heal the IT band tendinitis and if so, what did you do?

ohaideredevs 7y ago
https://www.verywellfit.com/thmb/cy7HrWq1zrKCGwQtQQjGbAG46PY=/1500x1000/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/FINAL_VWFitFitnessAnnotations2-5ba3f35f4cedfd00250bcd98.jpg https://www.verywellfit.com/thmb/cy7HrWq1zrKCGwQtQQjGbAG46PY... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lsvCMffkmKM/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lsvCMffkmKM/maxresdefault.jpg https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/resting-muscles-royalty-free-image-605773558-1548948149.jpg?crop=1.00xw:0.752xh;0,0.0938xh&resize=480:* https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images... All for 3x45s holds. Don't overdo it to the point where you are sore from stretching. I also stretched my hamstrings and hip flexors. I do believe that it's all related. Specifically, I know that hip flexor tightness and weak glutes can put more strain on the IT band. You can strengthen glutes with planks, glute bridges, and step ups.

jtdev 7y ago

Yup, as is evidenced by the opioid genocide... I mean epidemic. I do know some exceptional doctors, but WTF happened to cause so many to forget the hippocratic oath?

Infernal 7y ago
Can't help but point out that your misspelling of Hippocratic made it more similar to hypocrisy, which is ironic to say the least.

asark 7y ago

An unfortunate amount of my interaction with doctors has just been waiting for them to diagnose me or a family member with the same thing I already figured out is probably going on, so we can get the drugs or treatment to fix it. Self-diagnosis on with the Web has a bad name for a good reason, but with a critical eye you can nail what the doctor's gonna say damn near 100% of the time, or at least narrow it down to the couple things they'll run tests to decide between. It's kinda fun but also kinda sad knowing everything they're gonna say and order in advance because you read stuff on the Web for 10 minutes before the visit. Obviously never let on that you've done that. The best are when you go through a couple and they can't figure out WTF is wrong and you finally get one who's like "oh yeah, I can't believe they didn't check for this, circumstances and your symptoms make it pretty likely and it's not uncommon" and you're like "yeah, I f*cking know, I read some Wikipedia before the first visit and have just been walking you all through the process of figuring it out, while I pay you for the privilege, but I can't push too hard or you'll think I'm a crank".

ibeckermayer 7y ago
Doctors in America are certified members of a caste system. In traditional caste systems, your caste was determined by blood (for example it might work like: if your dad was a doctor, you could be a doctor) but in contemporary society we’ve replaced these with government licensed caste systems: if you’ve paid your dues and gone through the certification process imposed by the alphabet soup of government bureaucracy and special interest lobbyists, you’re allowed to be a doctor; anybody who hasn’t gone through this process will be arrested if they attempt to provide medical services. Predictably, the violently enforced caste system allows all manner of incompetence and impunity to reign free — if the legistlatively enforced educational / certification standards are letting total incompetents slip through the cracks, tough luck. You can try to change them through the democratic process, but the current members of the caste have massive influence on these institutions and a vested interest in keeping it just the way it is: extremely expensive for us in exchange for minimal standards of quality for them. This outcome is entirely predictable: independent thought is the basis of all knowledge, so when a group outlaws it in some branch of human endeavor, there’s no mystery as to why that branch of the endeavor becomes fraudulent. I’m admittedly being somewhat obtuse here, since thanks to the genius of the first amendment I’m still free to think whatever I want about the medical caste and complain about it on the internet. What’s restricted are the actions I can take — for example if I wanted to build “Lambda School for Doctors”, I couldn’t legally do so without following all of the educational/certification protocols imposed on us through legislation by the status quo medical caste (which defeats the whole purpose). But because actions are downstream from ideas (thoughts) about how to act, restricting individual’s actions in this way is importantly similar to restricting freedom of thought, and has analogous consequences. Until we reform our laws to allow all adults offer and accept non-fraudulent (this qualifier demands deeper discussion about the proper legal standard of “fraudulent”) medical services, our hands are effectively tied in even beginning to address the issue.

scruple 7y ago

> ... but I find doctors literally worse than useless in most cases. Yeah, same here. My hot take is: if you're not an elite athlete then you're basically shit out of luck and you are on your own, regardless of how much money you might be capable and/or interested in spending on your problems. I have retrocalcaneal bursitis and a chronic muscle tear in my left calf. I ran through nearly a dozen people, specialists and physical therapists and physiotherapists, and no one could help. They wanted to give me cortisone injections in my heel or sent me to the ER for DVT for the calf. I spent a lot of money to _not_ be helped by these people over a period of 4 or 5 years. I eventually found a legit physiotherapist (he works with some local athletes... MMA fighters and a couple of NHL players, so there it is) who wasn't just out to take my money from me. Through him, the chronic muscle tear is now managed completely (when I feel it coming back, I give him a call and pop in for a few sessions of excruciating deep cross-friction massage that keeps me exercising without needing breaks) and the bursitis is managed entirely by myself through a daily stretching and mobility routine that he helped me develop. I am honestly concerned about what happens to me in the future. If he retires or moves or if I move. If I have new minor/major injuries to contend with at that point then I'm going to be back to this dreadful search or worse, having to give up specific exercises that I enjoy. edit/ Oh, and another horror story that I managed to forget about. I popped 2 ribs last fall (brain fog, was lifting too heavy while I was tired and just trying to grind a workout out) and couldn't get it properly diagnosed either. Went to my GP, he thought it was a muscle strain. Sure, okay. I believed him. So, I had a week long backpacking trip 3 days later that I ended up going on anyway. Hurt like hell. I knew it wasn't a strain by the time I got home. Popped in to see my physiotherapist and he was able to isolate and diagnose the issue in just a couple of minutes. How can my GP miss this? You literally rub your fingers between my shoulder blade and spine and it was as clear as day. I went to a Chiropractor for a few sessions, in addition to some rehab at home like rolling on a racquet ball, and now everything is back to normal. This sort of shit, "professionals" who are utterly horrible at their chosen profession, borders on fraud for me.

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Sharlin 7y ago

Physiotherapists are not doctors, and doctors are not physiotherapists. So I'm not sure why you're replying to the GP.

Dirlewanger 7y ago
Referrals to specialists from GPs/PCPs are often needed for insurance to cover visits.