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> "Just regular people workin," Ice-T wrote. "I ain't mad at them. Just sayin. That ... ain't safe." You know what else "ain't safe", Ice-T? Defaulting to shoo
by ggambetta 7y ago
> "Just regular people workin," Ice-T wrote. "I ain't mad at them. Just sayin. That ... ain't safe."
You know what else "ain't safe", Ice-T? Defaulting to shooting people you don't recognize!
- js2 7y agoIf nextdoor has taught me anything, it's that many of my neighbors are deathly afraid of two things: snakes, and people they don't recognize.
- HarryHirsch 7y agoBut it's America, where you take personal responsibility for your own safety. The organs of the state are either absent - consider George Zimmermann, his neighbourhood did have a crime problem, so he saw fit to take matters in his own hand - or they are not safe to call. I bet there's a substantial contingent of African-Americans who won't call police because of previous unfavourable interactions, US police have a deplorably low standard of training and discipline. If anyone needs proof for that, look no further than Mohammed Noor or Amber Guyger.
- pavel_lishin 7y agoUsing George Zimmerman, a trigger-happy vigilante-wannabe, as your example undermines the point you're trying to make.
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoUsing Zimmerman as his example makes me think he's trying to walk the line between parody and seriousness.
- pavel_lishin 7y agoPoe's Law is a bitch.
- throwaway99200 7y agoThe political icon George Zimmerman and the political icon Treyvon Martin are different than the actual people. Much of this is because the narrative was established before many facts were known. Here are some facts: 1. Treyvon Martin was in Florida because he was expelled from school. He was expelled because he had jewelry that was burglarized from houses nearby, as well as burglary tools in his school locker. 2. Since Treyvon moved in, there had been several burglaries in the neighborhood. 3. The neighbors were upset about these burglaries and generally liked Zimmerman's proactive attitude. The neighbors generally felt that the police were not effective. 4. Zimmerman saw Martin in the yard of a house peering in the window. His impression was that he might be looking for houses to burglarize. Given what we know of Martin's past, Zimmerman was probably correct in his impression. 5. Martin probably knew that if the police got involved, the police might find out about his prior record, and certainly his father would assume that he was burglarizing homes again, and this would at least cause him trouble at home. 6. From the physical evidence, conflicting witness reports, and the recording of the 911 call, we know with high probability that while Zimmerman was following Martin and waiting for police to arrive, Martin attacked Zimmerman, got him on the ground, and smashed his head against the concrete. 7. At this point, it's fair to say that Zimmerman's life was in significant danger. In that moment, he pulled out his gun and shot the man who was smashing his head into the concrete.
- oreo83 7y agoWhy is this down voted?
- gregkerzhner 7y agoHis reality is not one that (at least I) can understand living a safe and comfortable life in the suburbs. He was associated with crime, gangs, and fame throughout his life. It may be that he is more defensive because he has had (or currently has) people trying to come and kill him. That being said, if I ever need to put a hit out on Ice-T, I will make sure I am wearing an Amazon vest.
- nickpsecurity 7y agoWe slept near a shotgun in the hood and murder capital I lived in. North Memphis, TN. People would try to steal stuff out the car in the middle of night. You could get jacked on the street, too, so better carry weapons. That said, our default reaction to people coming near our house was to watch them (where they saw us watching them), say hello if they're passing by, ask who they were if they approached, and merely be prepared to act if we had to. Most people that approached were harmless: asking about something (esp directions), trying to bum money off us, sell to us, etc. Ice-T's reaction sounds like it has something to do with him or the culture of wherever he's from. Gangs like you said with their "it's the jungle mindset." They default to and embrace violence in many situations where it's unnecessary. They push thug culture in Memphis, too, but most people avoid violence where possible. Probably why it went down at some point despite lots of folks having a hard time finding work. I don't know current numbers, though, since I live outside Memphis now. "That being said, if I ever need to put a hit out on Ice-T, I will make sure I am wearing an Amazon vest." Exactly! Someone from his background should know you have to watch everybody. What symbols or colors they wear don't prove a thing about how good they are. They sometimes might tell you how bad they are, though.
- shams93 7y agoWell Los Angeles culture is like that you have even greater social inequality in LA than the Bay Area. Robberies of the wealthy are commonplace and the police will get there like 48 hours after the fact. So yes its a dangerous place to deliver for Amazon. If you don't get shot by mistake you could be eaten by a pack of guard dogs.
- jancsika 7y agoWhich is worse (by far): * one object's memory becoming corrupted due to a local hardware error * a change to a class member that silently loses data Edit: clarification
- norswap 7y agoPeople say "he's from the street" but damn, he's also a celebrity — that's bound to attract a slew of weird and ill-intentioned people. That being said, I doubt he would have shot someone unprovoked. That part is for the street cred.
- WalterGR 7y agoYou know what else "ain't safe", Ice-T? Defaulting to shooting people you don't recognize! The unnecessary verbatim quoting, both in the article’s title and in this comment, serve only to highlight the otherness of Ice-T, which then makes it easier to accept the premise, because (clutches pearls) I would certainly do nothing like that!
- ggambetta 7y agoI'm pretty sure that myself, and most people in the world (i.e. those not living in certain places in the Land of the Free™ or active war zones), would certainly not do something like that.