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My guess: Expect raw capitalism to re-invade the world. However, this is not going to come in the way of political structure changing, but rather resistance to

by kiba 16y ago

My guess: Expect raw capitalism to re-invade the world. However, this is not going to come in the way of political structure changing, but rather resistance to political structure. It's not going to be headed by One Megacorporation by any mean. They're just along for the ride. All the pieces are coming together. A radical ideology, a working knowledge of economic, a technologically sophisticated community, and a new kind of technology that the community can revolves around.

forkandwait 16y ago
My counter guess: expect small and medium non-governmental cooperative organizations to invade. Currently the world is divided into those creatively make social structures happen (gee Bob, let's start a company -- who should we hire? gee George and Thomas, lets start our damn government on this side of the Atlantic -- how does one train an army anyway?) and those who subconciously seek to occupy them un-creatively (gee, should I become an Oracle dev or a Microsoft dev? Gee, should I join the revolutionary army or the royalist army?) But the technology (DIY manufacturing) and the communication (internet plus math) and the culturation for everybody to become a little bit of the former is starting to seep everywhere, and there are huge payoffs for taking it up and organizing cooperatively(gee, why dont' we start GNU software and give it away instead of try to sell it?) Oh -- just want to mention that I don't see this as being nation state driven, and it is not the big monolithic socialism of the past -- more a "free market socialism"
- forkandwait 16y ago
  ... And in my more paranoid moments, I think that the reason public schools suck is that otherwise we would flood the world with self-disciplined people who can organize society for themselves and would grow very tired of working for and buying from the current owners of our world... (yes, you can call me damn hippy!)
jamesbritt 16y ago
"Expect raw capitalism to re-invade the world. " Can you define "raw capitalism"?
- kiba 16y ago
  Capitalism that is uninhibited by the rules made by the state or government.
  - jamesbritt 16y ago
    So no corporations. That should be interesting.
    - kiba 16y ago
      I didn't say no corporation, just that they're going to be along for the ride.
      - jamesbritt 16y ago
        Corporations are an invention of the State. Corporate charters are granted by the government.

by kiba 16y ago

forkandwait 16y ago

My counter guess: expect small and medium non-governmental cooperative organizations to invade. Currently the world is divided into those creatively make social structures happen (gee Bob, let's start a company -- who should we hire? gee George and Thomas, lets start our damn government on this side of the Atlantic -- how does one train an army anyway?) and those who subconciously seek to occupy them un-creatively (gee, should I become an Oracle dev or a Microsoft dev? Gee, should I join the revolutionary army or the royalist army?) But the technology (DIY manufacturing) and the communication (internet plus math) and the culturation for everybody to become a little bit of the former is starting to seep everywhere, and there are huge payoffs for taking it up and organizing cooperatively(gee, why dont' we start GNU software and give it away instead of try to sell it?) Oh -- just want to mention that I don't see this as being nation state driven, and it is not the big monolithic socialism of the past -- more a "free market socialism"

forkandwait 16y ago
... And in my more paranoid moments, I think that the reason public schools suck is that otherwise we would flood the world with self-disciplined people who can organize society for themselves and would grow very tired of working for and buying from the current owners of our world... (yes, you can call me damn hippy!)

jamesbritt 16y ago

"Expect raw capitalism to re-invade the world. " Can you define "raw capitalism"?

kiba 16y ago
Capitalism that is uninhibited by the rules made by the state or government.
- jamesbritt 16y ago
  So no corporations. That should be interesting.
  - kiba 16y ago
    I didn't say no corporation, just that they're going to be along for the ride.
    - jamesbritt 16y ago
      Corporations are an invention of the State. Corporate charters are granted by the government.