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Yeah like US rules the world and US laws should apply to everyone! Then don't be surprised if the rest of the world prefer Chinese because as of today the last
by greatpatton 7y ago
Yeah like US rules the world and US laws should apply to everyone! Then don't be surprised if the rest of the world prefer Chinese because as of today the last imperialistic power is the USA.
By the way nobody outside of the US voted for your smart president.
- sanxiyn 7y agoUS laws should not apply to everyone, but in practice they do, sort of. The most prominent example is internet services censoring nipples due to US stupidity.
- greatpatton 7y agoUS laws apply to everyone because US laws are extraterritorial in nature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction
- Zak 7y agoThe EU is trying to assert extraterritorial jurisdiction as well with the GDPR and its like. If all countries start doing this sort of thing with any degree of success, international and online business as we know it won't be possible.
- DCKing 7y agoNo it doesn't. It only applies if you operate within the EU, and if you do business with (the data of) EU citizens. I'm not sure what else you can reasonably expect there.
- Zak 7y agoIf you run a website that allows arbitrary visitors to enter data, some of them will be from the EU. Some of them will also be from... let's say Iran. Should everyone who runs a website open to the public have to know the laws of Iran and obey those intended to apply to their website? Should websites have to attempt to block access to visitors from countries whose laws they either don't know or don't want to comply with? Both of those approaches break the internet as we know it.
- muraiki 7y agoIt's actually not clear that GDPR only affects EU citizens: > Here’s the issue: the law uses the term “data subject” but doesn’t define the term. Some may assume that data subjects are EU citizens, but that analysis seems to exclude the explicit language of the law and practical considerations. There’s tourism, travel, residencies, students abroad, and much more to consider. Because GDPR uses inconsistent qualifiers when referring to data subjects and informal descriptions of who a data subject is, the public has been left with varying interpretations and significant challenges. [1] In some interpretations, a US citizen who is traveling in the EU and orders something from a US company would be considered a data subject, and the company they ordered from would need to comply with the GDPR. So how would that be enforced? Either through treaties or by requiring non-EU companies to establish a representative entity in an EU member state. [2] [1] https://kirkpatrickprice.com/blog/what-is-gdpr-personal-data-and-who-is-a-gdpr-data-subject/ https://kirkpatrickprice.com/blog/what-is-gdpr-personal-data... [2] https://politics.stackexchange.com/a/30513 https://politics.stackexchange.com/a/30513
- zhte415 7y agoEU residents, not EU citizens. An EU citizen resident outside the EU falls outside GDPR, while a non-EU citizen resident in EU falls within.
- gamblor956 7y agoNobody censored nipples because of US laws. US laws allow nipples on the internet, and the US is one of the largest sources of such images...
- gamblor956 7y agoI really hoped that nobody outside of the US (except for US citizens) voted for our president because that would have been illegal, as voting in US presidential elections in limited to US citizens. Immigrants (in the US) are not allowed to vote in presidential elections either...
- muyuu 7y agoWell, as Patton knew, the rules are set by power first and negotiation second. Negotiation failed, power is kicking in.