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> It will work with Android apps and web apps as well I guess it is fair to assume at this point that they based it on the OSS part of Android ? Let's see if

by maeln 7y ago

> It will work with Android apps and web apps as well I guess it is fair to assume at this point that they based it on the OSS part of Android ? Let's see if they manage to solve the Play Service pickle also. A lot of application assume you have them, I don't know if a lot of dev' are going to repackage their app "play-service" free for one vendor (wouldn't be surprising for popular app tho').

saagarjha 7y ago
It could also be Chrome OS…
cphoover 7y ago
> em, I don't know if a lot of dev' are going to repackage their app "play-service" A lot of devs will repackage their apps if it means reaching a market, what 10x the size of the United States (Europe and Asia) ?
- maeln 7y ago
  Except it will just be huawei for now. We are talking about just one vendor, not the whole Asian/European market.
  - karmakaze 7y ago
    Android was just Google for 3 years and I imagine Huawei will be moving much faster. If they see the value in the OS (as opposed to Apple's HW strategy) it can have a Android-sized market share rather than an iOS-sized one which is significant outside our bubbles.
- duxup 7y ago
  How viable is it for someone outside China to sell apps in China? I got the impression that it is pretty difficult.
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- djsumdog 7y ago
  There are many who create non-play builds of their apps, notably for the Amazon Fire app store. There's also the open source microG project, that can probably be leveraged.
dspillett 7y ago
> I don't know if a lot of dev' are going to repackage their app "play-service" free Don't many already for Amazon's store? Or does Amazon's store usually get used along-side Google's Play Store and/or have some sort of compatibility shim? > for one vendor (wouldn't be surprising for popular app tho'). Huawei is a reasonably significant manufacturer though, and other Chinese manufacturers may get on-board (even if they don't have to now, as a precautionary measure in case that changes) and if they end up offering handsets cheaper with the new OS than Android people might buy them in significant numbers. And if it is easy to package for this new OS as well as Android, i.e. there are minimal or no changes needed to the main app code just extra steps in the build process, devs might support it because the effort is small so why lock yourself out of a market? They may also just stop using Play specific things, if losing what-ever benefit they offer is deemed less hassle than maintaining the extra build.
martin_a 7y ago
> Let's see if they manage to solve the Play Service pickle also. A lot of application assume you have them [...] What are those even good for? In the end a smartphone is a little computer running some kind of Linux and we should be able to have a standard cron to deal with recurring tasks. Not some fancy service to do things I don't want it to do. This whole App ecosystem is going really wild and not for the best, I think.

by maeln 7y ago

saagarjha 7y ago

It could also be Chrome OS…

cphoover 7y ago

> em, I don't know if a lot of dev' are going to repackage their app "play-service" A lot of devs will repackage their apps if it means reaching a market, what 10x the size of the United States (Europe and Asia) ?

maeln 7y ago
Except it will just be huawei for now. We are talking about just one vendor, not the whole Asian/European market.
- karmakaze 7y ago
  Android was just Google for 3 years and I imagine Huawei will be moving much faster. If they see the value in the OS (as opposed to Apple's HW strategy) it can have a Android-sized market share rather than an iOS-sized one which is significant outside our bubbles.
duxup 7y ago
How viable is it for someone outside China to sell apps in China? I got the impression that it is pretty difficult.
- deleted 7y ago
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djsumdog 7y ago
There are many who create non-play builds of their apps, notably for the Amazon Fire app store. There's also the open source microG project, that can probably be leveraged.

dspillett 7y ago

> I don't know if a lot of dev' are going to repackage their app "play-service" free Don't many already for Amazon's store? Or does Amazon's store usually get used along-side Google's Play Store and/or have some sort of compatibility shim? > for one vendor (wouldn't be surprising for popular app tho'). Huawei is a reasonably significant manufacturer though, and other Chinese manufacturers may get on-board (even if they don't have to now, as a precautionary measure in case that changes) and if they end up offering handsets cheaper with the new OS than Android people might buy them in significant numbers. And if it is easy to package for this new OS as well as Android, i.e. there are minimal or no changes needed to the main app code just extra steps in the build process, devs might support it because the effort is small so why lock yourself out of a market? They may also just stop using Play specific things, if losing what-ever benefit they offer is deemed less hassle than maintaining the extra build.

martin_a 7y ago

> Let's see if they manage to solve the Play Service pickle also. A lot of application assume you have them [...] What are those even good for? In the end a smartphone is a little computer running some kind of Linux and we should be able to have a standard cron to deal with recurring tasks. Not some fancy service to do things I don't want it to do. This whole App ecosystem is going really wild and not for the best, I think.