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Things are certainly looking bullish for Airbus in the aftermath of this.
by Aromasin 7y ago
Things are certainly looking bullish for Airbus in the aftermath of this.
- mimixco 7y agoAnd they just extended the range of the A220.
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- ulfw 7y agoTime to extend the plane and make it an A320/738-8 sized A220-500!
- ddalex 7y agoMake it a double decker single-aisle 2/3 seat split and name it A280.
- ulfw 7y agoLove it ;) Upper deck is a business 1/1
- rootusrootus 7y agoTongue-in-cheek? I thought this kind of extending was what people are blasting Boeing for?
- jpkeisala 7y agoI think they will need to go easy on this in order to avoid White House getting involved.
- bilbo0s 7y agoTo be honest, if the American government got involved to protect Boeing, that would be even worse for Boeing, and nearly fatal to the authoritative status of the FAA. It would pretty much confirm what most air travelers are thinking. That the US government cares a good deal more about keeping Boeing afloat than it cares about our safety. At the same time, Boeing and the FAA have already taken pretty big hits. So game theoretically speaking, why not go all in? Tough to say which is the worse tactic for the US government to follow right now? (If we're talking about landing in the best position long term.) Taking the high road? Or just letting the corruption show?
- fmajid 7y agoI'm no Trump fan but he actually did the right thing in this case (force the grounding of the MAX when the FAA was still in denial).
- philjohn 7y agoThere was an interesting Mentour Pilot about this, essentially the lead time for a new airplane order is in the order of years, and there are other costs as well. If you've built your business around one specific type of jet it's costly to move to the competitors, which is why the "no type rating change" was so important for the max. Perhaps for future large orders this may be a boon for Airbus, but that would be in the longer medium term, and a lot can happen between then and now. As it is, having two large companies trading blows is better than one dominating the market, so I hope Boeing are humbled, have a root and branch overhaul of how they conduct business, and shareholders take a hit, but that they survive.
- simion314 7y agoYou still have the FAA and related regulations issues, this kind of unsafe behavior should have been caught early. Is FAA regulating other companies and products? those also would need investigated
- philjohn 7y agoMost definitely - and the way that FAA essentially outsources the approval back to the manufacturer is something that needs to change ... but is there the will in the Senate and White House to spend more on the FAA?
- simion314 7y agoFrom what I read the FAA people were paid by Boeing in the past but they were reporting to FAA, it makes sense , you want your plane,drone other device certified you pay the expenses of the engineers that will do the checks, there should be no need to pay them with public money.
- raverbashing 7y ago> If you've built your business around one specific type of jet it's costly to move to the competitors, which is why the "no type rating change" was so important for the max. Yes it is costly but you know what? It's BS Because the 737 line (nor the A320 nor any other line) is not going to last forever. (Especially wrt widebodies but that's another issue as I don't know if the A330Neo and the 777X have the same type as their predecessors) EVERY airline should be planning ahead. I'm thinking if Southwest and/or Ryanair are not thinking about keep flying their NGs and forget all about this MAX stuff for one or two years at least (FR delayed their MAX deliveries last I heard) Now Airbus just put out the NEO and they probably have room for another refresh on that platform but probably not two refreshes. But again, it won't last forever Though the tough part for airlines is two: pilots can't switch between 2 types and bringing another type slowly is hard. But it is something they will have to do eventually
- CaptainZapp 7y agoI'm not sure. First of all they will not capitalize on this. Airlines as well as manufacturers never use (lack of) security with a competitor as a marketing argument. Moreover. Order books for the main competitor, The A320NEO and derivatives, are full until something like 2025. It's possible that it's an advantage for the A220 (Bombardier C series) as some commenter pointed out. Which, incidentally, is a fantastic passenger experience for short - to medium haul flights.
- peteretep 7y ago> Airlines as well as manufacturers never use (lack of) security with a competitor as a marketing argument. Suspect they're very happy to use consumer confidence as a marketing argument though.
- ulfw 7y agoI wish Boeing would rather FINALLY do the right thing, take their billion dollar earnings and putting it into R&D to build a new, modern 2020s design aircraft into the sky for the next decades rather than it's umpteenth warm-up of their 1960s design.