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I'm rooting for Mozilla and the Tor Project to uplift Tor into Firefox. Imagine a world where people need to opt in to get less privacy.

JulianMorrison 7y ago
The reason to have a Tor browser is that regular browser features aren't well suited to secure anonymous browsing. The reason to have a regular browser is that you want those features, and the low latency of a direct connection.
tomatotomato37 7y ago
It's interesting, the only way that would work is if they also turn every browser into a through node, which would be both highly controversial while also a great boon to the Tor network as a whole
- close04 7y ago
  Using "Tor mode" instead of "private mode" in regular Firefox would be nice.
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- computerfriend 7y ago
  Why would that be the only way it would work? Because integrating Tor into Firefox is currently planned and making clients Tor nodes is not part of that plan.
ve55 7y ago
I'm not. I prefer the Tor Project to make their decisions independently of Mozilla, which has a worse track record in most areas. Additionally, tor isn't something that every Internet user should be using. I say this because when they get 10 ReCaptchas in a row, then try to log into their bank and have their credit card automatically frozen, then wonder why google search isn't working, then give up and just use Facebook all day anyway, they will definitely not be appreciating the 'anonymity' that we gave them.
- dessant 7y ago
  The usability drawbacks are there because companies can afford to discriminate against Tor users. Once more people use Tor, it becomes expensive to not support them, and the usability issues present today are solved through innovation. Regarding decision making, Mozilla integrating Tor into Firefox does not mean that the Tor Project has to give up its autonomy.

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I'm rooting for Mozilla and the Tor Project to uplift Tor into Firefox. Imagine a world where people need to opt in to get less privacy.

by dessant 7y ago

JulianMorrison 7y ago
The reason to have a Tor browser is that regular browser features aren't well suited to secure anonymous browsing. The reason to have a regular browser is that you want those features, and the low latency of a direct connection.
tomatotomato37 7y ago
It's interesting, the only way that would work is if they also turn every browser into a through node, which would be both highly controversial while also a great boon to the Tor network as a whole
- close04 7y ago
  Using "Tor mode" instead of "private mode" in regular Firefox would be nice.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- computerfriend 7y ago
  Why would that be the only way it would work? Because integrating Tor into Firefox is currently planned and making clients Tor nodes is not part of that plan.
ve55 7y ago
I'm not. I prefer the Tor Project to make their decisions independently of Mozilla, which has a worse track record in most areas. Additionally, tor isn't something that every Internet user should be using. I say this because when they get 10 ReCaptchas in a row, then try to log into their bank and have their credit card automatically frozen, then wonder why google search isn't working, then give up and just use Facebook all day anyway, they will definitely not be appreciating the 'anonymity' that we gave them.
- dessant 7y ago
  The usability drawbacks are there because companies can afford to discriminate against Tor users. Once more people use Tor, it becomes expensive to not support them, and the usability issues present today are solved through innovation. Regarding decision making, Mozilla integrating Tor into Firefox does not mean that the Tor Project has to give up its autonomy.