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Let me make a list: - Better TV. - Much Better Food. - Higher paying jobs. - Bigger cars, bigger roads. - Second Amendment. - First Amendment. - Lower Ta

Let me make a list: - Better TV. - Much Better Food. - Higher paying jobs. - Bigger cars, bigger roads. - Second Amendment. - First Amendment. - Lower Taxes (income and sales). - Ability to not talk to the Police and not have that used against you. - More likely to succeed if you start a business. Shark Tank > Dragons Den UK. - More likely to get funding if you decide to get an Angel / VC and higher amounts with lower equity. - More likely to have FFF rounds fund 6 figure seed for startup. Everyone I know in the UK is skint because of zero hours and high taxes and no savings. - 325m vs 66m in population. Therefore a much higher population to sell a product to locally and regionally. Not the same in the UK. Small business more prevalent in the US also, easier time to sell B2B. I've spent probably close to 4 years now in the US. Lived and worked in many states. The US outclasses the UK by many margins. Here's one for you. I'm living in the UK now, it's actually detrimental to bootstrapping a business. Tell me, what does the UK give you that the US doesn't. Oh that's right, healthcare is the biggest one. Yeah, I'll give you that one. Nothing else though!

dhkxh 7y ago
This list is so ridiculous that I can't bring myself to do a point-by-point rebuttal.
n4r9 7y ago
I live in London, have visited the US and have friends that live there. Almost all of these are wrong or simply things I don't value. The only one I don't dispute is the likelihood of success in business. To be fair I'd rather take the healthcare (and slightly more sane political environment). - Better TV. Who watches normal TV as opposed to Netflix? - Much Better Food. Dispute this. US food standards are demonstrably lower than in the EU. You might be able to get bigger portions and a larger variety of junk food but so what. - Higher paying jobs. In SF maybe, but the cost of living is correspondingly much higher. - Bigger cars, bigger roads. Why do you need this if you can comfortably get places via modern public transport? - Second Amendment. Unnecessary in a country where no one has guns - First Amendment. We have comparable laws - Lower Taxes (income and sales). I'd rather pay taxes to get healthcare free at point of service and a safety net for people who lose their jobs - Ability to not talk to the Police and not have that used against you. We have comparable laws
- no1youknowz 7y ago
  I've lived in London for 10 years too. Visiting the US does not mean living in it... - Netflix, in the UK due to licensing is a poorer subset of content. - There are much better choices of food options available in the US compared to the UK. - No, literally everywhere. I know many developers [around the US] who know either just PHP or Node and have $100k positions. Try living outside of London, you'd be lucky just to earn £30k. - Outside of London a car is a necessity, the Tube does not exist outside of London. Not everyone wants to live where anyway. Try seeing the other parts of the UK for instance. You'll be shocked just how bad the public transport is. - [Second Amendment] Nope, but how many stabbings have there been so far this year? Oh and gun crime is on the rise. Oh wait we don't have guns. Yeah I forgot. - [First Amendment] We don't have comparable laws. Just how many times have Police interviewed people at their home for posting things on Twitter that [other] people found offensive. Even though they weren't. - The safety net for a single man in the UK is a pittance. We don't all have mortgages and kids. Having a poor and highly taxed society means less opportunity for everyone. - We don't have comparable laws when taking to the Police. Happy you replied though. Much better than the downvotes for those in the UK and won't be able to understand how life is different elsewhere.
  - zimpenfish 7y ago
    > but how many stabbings have there been so far this year? In the latest figures, there were 726 murders between March 2017 and 2018 in the UK[1] for 66M people (1 in 91k). In the US, 2017, there were just over 17000 murders[2] for 325M people (1 in 19k). Stabbings and gun crime in the UK is going to have to go up a hecking long way before we get anywhere close to the US. [1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2018 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand... [2] https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/murder https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-...
  - n4r9 7y ago
    I'll grant you that I'm comparing living in London to living in the US generally, which is a little unfair. I've also lived in Nottingham (also great public transport) and Cambridge (pretty poor public transport) and have managed most of the time without needing to drive. My point is more that "bigger cars" is not inherently a valuable prospect compared to "good public transport". After a few online searches the average PHP salary in London is supposedly £55-60k, which is comparable to the supposed $70-80k average for the US. As another commenter mentioned, weapon-based murders are far lower in the UK than the US. I grant you we don't have legislation to protect hate speech, but we do have the right to silence when being questioned by police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_and_Wales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_an... .

dhkxh 7y ago

This list is so ridiculous that I can't bring myself to do a point-by-point rebuttal.

n4r9 7y ago

I live in London, have visited the US and have friends that live there. Almost all of these are wrong or simply things I don't value. The only one I don't dispute is the likelihood of success in business. To be fair I'd rather take the healthcare (and slightly more sane political environment). - Better TV. Who watches normal TV as opposed to Netflix? - Much Better Food. Dispute this. US food standards are demonstrably lower than in the EU. You might be able to get bigger portions and a larger variety of junk food but so what. - Higher paying jobs. In SF maybe, but the cost of living is correspondingly much higher. - Bigger cars, bigger roads. Why do you need this if you can comfortably get places via modern public transport? - Second Amendment. Unnecessary in a country where no one has guns - First Amendment. We have comparable laws - Lower Taxes (income and sales). I'd rather pay taxes to get healthcare free at point of service and a safety net for people who lose their jobs - Ability to not talk to the Police and not have that used against you. We have comparable laws

no1youknowz 7y ago
I've lived in London for 10 years too. Visiting the US does not mean living in it... - Netflix, in the UK due to licensing is a poorer subset of content. - There are much better choices of food options available in the US compared to the UK. - No, literally everywhere. I know many developers [around the US] who know either just PHP or Node and have $100k positions. Try living outside of London, you'd be lucky just to earn £30k. - Outside of London a car is a necessity, the Tube does not exist outside of London. Not everyone wants to live where anyway. Try seeing the other parts of the UK for instance. You'll be shocked just how bad the public transport is. - [Second Amendment] Nope, but how many stabbings have there been so far this year? Oh and gun crime is on the rise. Oh wait we don't have guns. Yeah I forgot. - [First Amendment] We don't have comparable laws. Just how many times have Police interviewed people at their home for posting things on Twitter that [other] people found offensive. Even though they weren't. - The safety net for a single man in the UK is a pittance. We don't all have mortgages and kids. Having a poor and highly taxed society means less opportunity for everyone. - We don't have comparable laws when taking to the Police. Happy you replied though. Much better than the downvotes for those in the UK and won't be able to understand how life is different elsewhere.
- zimpenfish 7y ago
  > but how many stabbings have there been so far this year? In the latest figures, there were 726 murders between March 2017 and 2018 in the UK[1] for 66M people (1 in 91k). In the US, 2017, there were just over 17000 murders[2] for 325M people (1 in 19k). Stabbings and gun crime in the UK is going to have to go up a hecking long way before we get anywhere close to the US. [1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2018 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeand... [2] https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/topic-pages/murder https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-...
- n4r9 7y ago
  I'll grant you that I'm comparing living in London to living in the US generally, which is a little unfair. I've also lived in Nottingham (also great public transport) and Cambridge (pretty poor public transport) and have managed most of the time without needing to drive. My point is more that "bigger cars" is not inherently a valuable prospect compared to "good public transport". After a few online searches the average PHP salary in London is supposedly £55-60k, which is comparable to the supposed $70-80k average for the US. As another commenter mentioned, weapon-based murders are far lower in the UK than the US. I grant you we don't have legislation to protect hate speech, but we do have the right to silence when being questioned by police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_and_Wales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_silence_in_England_an... .