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we make things. we make fullstack websites, we make payment processing widgets. we hook them together. a product no one wants, so it doesn't get purchased. i

we make things. we make fullstack websites, we make payment processing widgets. we hook them together. a product no one wants, so it doesn't get purchased. imagine if other hobbyists could so easily duct tape a virtual point-of-sale to their display cases. imagine if a gearhead could put a card reader on their front door, try to get the public to wander in for 5 bucks and watch, ask questions. if she could do that as easily as us web geeks could, she'd try it too. but we're the ones with the free access to try it, so we're pioneering this model of a hobbyist product that few will pay for.

echelon 7y ago
The internet I grew up on didn't charge money for IRC, Blogspot, forums, mailing lists, Stack Overflow, etc. I'm now in the 1% due to the skills I've learned from free sources, and I pay it forward as much as I can. I have yet to encounter a "premium" medium article that really made me think or change my views. Their auto-Google login, paywall, and other dark patterns are annoying at best. Given their actions and how I value their content, I think Medium is the worst kind of walled garden. The Medium model is hot garbage, and I hope it dies.
- PhasmaFelis 7y ago
  > The internet I grew up on didn't charge money for IRC, Blogspot, forums, mailing lists, Stack Overflow, etc. Most of those things were and are maintained by unpaid volunteers, some of them spending their own money every month to keep the servers on. Which is awesome. I applaud anyone who's willing and able to give to the community like that. But a lot of people now act like it's inherently repugnant to want to be paid for your work, like digital content shouldn't exist unless it's a self-funded hobby. I don't think that's reasonable or realistic. Just to be clear, is it just Medium you don't like, or the entire concept of paying for content? I'm seeing both.
- bitwize 7y ago
  As the majority of hobbyists must be aware, most of you steal your content. Internet access must be paid for, but content is something to share. Who cares if the people who wrote it get paid?
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echelon 7y ago

The internet I grew up on didn't charge money for IRC, Blogspot, forums, mailing lists, Stack Overflow, etc. I'm now in the 1% due to the skills I've learned from free sources, and I pay it forward as much as I can. I have yet to encounter a "premium" medium article that really made me think or change my views. Their auto-Google login, paywall, and other dark patterns are annoying at best. Given their actions and how I value their content, I think Medium is the worst kind of walled garden. The Medium model is hot garbage, and I hope it dies.

PhasmaFelis 7y ago
> The internet I grew up on didn't charge money for IRC, Blogspot, forums, mailing lists, Stack Overflow, etc. Most of those things were and are maintained by unpaid volunteers, some of them spending their own money every month to keep the servers on. Which is awesome. I applaud anyone who's willing and able to give to the community like that. But a lot of people now act like it's inherently repugnant to want to be paid for your work, like digital content shouldn't exist unless it's a self-funded hobby. I don't think that's reasonable or realistic. Just to be clear, is it just Medium you don't like, or the entire concept of paying for content? I'm seeing both.
bitwize 7y ago
As the majority of hobbyists must be aware, most of you steal your content. Internet access must be paid for, but content is something to share. Who cares if the people who wrote it get paid?

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