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I just want a MBP that is a late 2013 body with modern hardware inside it. I know there are many others like me.

tomca32 7y ago
This so much. I would have upgraded at least twice already if that was an option. Sadly, it isn't and that's why I still use a pretty old model hoping it doesn't get too obsolete soon.
klodolph 7y ago
Are you sure you wouldn't rather have the 2008-2012 body? It's a bit easier to upgrade or repair. (At work I have a 15" MBP with the 2013 body. I'm eligible for upgrading it, but what would I replace it with that could possibly be better? Literally the only downside that I care about is the fact that most conference rooms at work no longer have magsafes lying around.)
- rayiner 7y ago
  The big improvement in the 2012-2015 body is that getting rid of upgradability and the optical drive allowed putting in a huge battery (basically the max allowed on airplanes). It also cut the weight by more than a pound.
  - klodolph 7y ago
    Most of that is the optical drive, right?
- lukifer 7y ago
  There's a lot to love in the 2013-2015 line, but the 2008-2012 series will always have my heart. I've never had a laptop so easy to work on, and being able to put two drives in a portable is icing on the cake.
  - asark 7y ago
    They keyboard on the '08-'12's noticeably better than in the '13-'15. Either is way better than the current version.
  - 3JPLW 7y ago
    Yup, I'm on an old top-of-the-line 2011 that I swapped out the DVD for an extra SSD. It's spoiled me — such that to replace it I want 16-32GB of RAM and 1TB SSD.
- icedchai 7y ago
  I preferred the 2007 body (the one before the chicklet keys.)
- dzhiurgis 7y ago
  I'd shelve another k for 17"...
HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
It's probably time to start banging the ThinkPad drum again, but first they need to put their RAM back in sockets.
- prvc 7y ago
  I think it's time to make peace with changes like this, proportionate to their importance to overall impact on functionality. One free slot (with a maximum amount of RAM determined by Intel, not soldering) is probably good enough. Same with removable batteries (the need for which is obviated by USB charging). Indicator LEDs, probably not worth it. Screen aspect ratio, and so on, are probably worth complaining about though.
- jteppinette 7y ago
  Disclaimer: work for Apple but about 1000 miles away from hardware The MacBook touch pads are leagues above all the competition. It’s the number one thing that keeps me away from my think pads.
  - bufferoverflow 7y ago
    And a $20 mouse is leagues above any touchpad.
    - scotu 7y ago
      not for me, my hand kill me with any mouse, vertical included. Cannot leave the mac's touchpad
  - criddell 7y ago
    Maybe you don't want to comment, but are people inside Apple that use a MacBook all day generally happy with the keyboards? I know there's going to be a mix of opinions, but here and on sites like Reddit, it feels like there's a majority opinion that the new keyboards are worse.
    - jteppinette 7y ago
fit2rule 7y ago
GPD Pocket Max.

This so much. I would have upgraded at least twice already if that was an option. Sadly, it isn't and that's why I still use a pretty old model hoping it doesn't get too obsolete soon.

klodolph 7y ago

Are you sure you wouldn't rather have the 2008-2012 body? It's a bit easier to upgrade or repair. (At work I have a 15" MBP with the 2013 body. I'm eligible for upgrading it, but what would I replace it with that could possibly be better? Literally the only downside that I care about is the fact that most conference rooms at work no longer have magsafes lying around.)

rayiner 7y ago
The big improvement in the 2012-2015 body is that getting rid of upgradability and the optical drive allowed putting in a huge battery (basically the max allowed on airplanes). It also cut the weight by more than a pound.
- klodolph 7y ago
  Most of that is the optical drive, right?
lukifer 7y ago
There's a lot to love in the 2013-2015 line, but the 2008-2012 series will always have my heart. I've never had a laptop so easy to work on, and being able to put two drives in a portable is icing on the cake.
- asark 7y ago
  They keyboard on the '08-'12's noticeably better than in the '13-'15. Either is way better than the current version.
- 3JPLW 7y ago
  Yup, I'm on an old top-of-the-line 2011 that I swapped out the DVD for an extra SSD. It's spoiled me — such that to replace it I want 16-32GB of RAM and 1TB SSD.
icedchai 7y ago
I preferred the 2007 body (the one before the chicklet keys.)
dzhiurgis 7y ago
I'd shelve another k for 17"...

HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago

It's probably time to start banging the ThinkPad drum again, but first they need to put their RAM back in sockets.

prvc 7y ago
I think it's time to make peace with changes like this, proportionate to their importance to overall impact on functionality. One free slot (with a maximum amount of RAM determined by Intel, not soldering) is probably good enough. Same with removable batteries (the need for which is obviated by USB charging). Indicator LEDs, probably not worth it. Screen aspect ratio, and so on, are probably worth complaining about though.
jteppinette 7y ago
Disclaimer: work for Apple but about 1000 miles away from hardware The MacBook touch pads are leagues above all the competition. It’s the number one thing that keeps me away from my think pads.
- bufferoverflow 7y ago
  And a $20 mouse is leagues above any touchpad.
  - scotu 7y ago
    not for me, my hand kill me with any mouse, vertical included. Cannot leave the mac's touchpad
- criddell 7y ago
  Maybe you don't want to comment, but are people inside Apple that use a MacBook all day generally happy with the keyboards? I know there's going to be a mix of opinions, but here and on sites like Reddit, it feels like there's a majority opinion that the new keyboards are worse.
  - jteppinette 7y ago

fit2rule 7y ago

GPD Pocket Max.