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>Given a lot of the negative points were around the reaction of others to having a camera pointed at them, I never got why they didn't make it easy to flip up t
by Sir_Substance 7y ago
>Given a lot of the negative points were around the reaction of others to having a camera pointed at them, I never got why they didn't make it easy to flip up the camera part as a way to physically indicate it wasn't in use.
That actually doesn't really solve the problem. People sometimes use cameras in the most inappropriate of places. If a friend of mine has a motorbike accident and breaks an arm and someone from the side of the street goes "coooool" and pulls out his phone and starts streaming, I can storm over there and slap the phone out of his hand.
You may or may not like the idea that I might do that, but I think it's appropriate and if that person disagrees then fuck 'em, they can argue it in front of a judge in small claims court.
The problem with glass, even with a flip down camera, is that /I have to hit you in the face/ to do the same thing. There's no way to make a glasshole stop filming except to stick my mittens near their eyes, and I'd totally agree with any judge that said my going for someones face to make them stop filming is a far more aggressive action than slapping a phone out of their hand.
But therein lies the problem. If you don't have the social awareness to know that you shouldn't be filming someone, if you're using glass I can't force you to stop filming without severely escalating the situation.
It's a socially inappropriate design.
- DenisM 7y ago> I can storm over there and slap the phone out of his hand [...] they can argue it in front of a judge in small claims court More likely you will be arguing in the criminal court on charge of assault. Videotaped, too.
- blincoln 7y agoWhat are you going to do when it becomes easy to record everything without there even being an obvious camera lens? It's possible today, just not with an unmodified consumer phone.
- Sir_Substance 7y agoWe're already seeing filming-in-public laws tightening up thanks to things like creep-shots. Laws take a long time to be revised. By and large, our public photography laws are still based in a time when most photos would become a negative which sat in a box for 30 years and then got thrown out. I hope that we will see better progress in the area of rights of insignificance and the quiet enjoyment of ones life before we reach that point. If we don't, it'll be a bumpy ride until the law catches up.
- Nicksil 7y ago>We're already seeing filming-in-public laws tightening Is this true? Where and how so?
- judge2020 7y agoAren't sidewalks and streets public spaces? Unless you're on private property (that you own), you can't legally slap someone, nor can you slap their phone out of their hand.
- Sir_Substance 7y agoWould you still feel the same way if someone was filming your child?
- hawaiianbrah 7y agoThat doesn’t change the legality much
- larkeith 7y ago"Won't someone please think of the children!" There are legitimate privacy and rights concerns to the legality of filming in public spaces (especially in this era of "big data"). None of them are exclusive to children. Also note that parent was discussing the legality of filming, which is independent of the... interesting social moires you espouse.
- la_barba 7y agoIts easy to be and stay principled when you're not the victim.
- judge2020 7y agoI didn't express any emotion or "feel" anything in that sentence, I was stating a fact that (in the US and Canada) streets are public places, and you can't legally do the things mentioned.
- scarejunba 7y agoDude, I'd kill hundreds to save my child. That doesn't mean I have to allow people to kill hundreds to save their child. The whole point is to make rules when you're rational so that when you're acting on biological instinct or emotion the rules constrain you. In fact, that's underselling it. If it's my child's leg or your life, you're going to die. That's why I don't get myself into this situation in the first place.
- ViViDboarder 7y agoThe easy way to get someone to stop filming would have been to wait, as Glass could only film short clips. I’m was never about to assault anyone over filming me, but when I was using Glass, I never once filmed something without their permission, but I did see lots of people secretly trying to record “this guy with Google Glass”. The fear was overblown and most people were hypocritical about it.