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I don't see how pointing out a country has concentration camps (reported by multiple outlets, like the NYTs) is "nationalistic," or against the spirit of the si

I don't see how pointing out a country has concentration camps (reported by multiple outlets, like the NYTs) is "nationalistic," or against the spirit of the site. In fact the story has been reported here...A LOT. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=china%20muslims&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=china%20muslims&sort=byPopular... https://hn.algolia.com/?query=china%20concentration&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=china%20concentration&sort=byP... I don't see anyone being "warned" about their -submissions- on this very topic. Maybe I'm missing something, but it feels like this "policy" is not evenly enforced. In fact a US political topic in regards to rights is currently on the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19959428 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19959428

dang 7y ago
I'm aware of how often the story has been submitted and also how often people bring it up in comments, including where it breaks this site guideline to do so: "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The issue is that your comment was taking the thread further into flamewar. That's not ok here. Is the policy evenly enforced? No, because we don't see everything. That doesn't make it ok to break the rules though.
- partiallypro 7y ago
  Still fail to see how this is an unrelated controversy or generic tangent, when Huawei has been accused of aiding in human rights violations with the Chinese government. That is very much on topic. If it were just China in general, that would be a tangent...but this is about Huawei which was accused of this by "Reporters without Borders" just last month, of assisting in Chinese concentration camps imprisoning Muslims https://rsf.org/en/reports/rsf-report-chinas-pursuit-new-world-media-order https://rsf.org/en/reports/rsf-report-chinas-pursuit-new-wor.... The reason I say this is unevenly enforced is that people constantly point out US companies aiding the NSA via PRISM from years back...but new reports of the Chinese government doing the same thing, if not worse, are marked as "nationalist" and "flamebait." Either both are, or neither are. It seems like one comes under much more scrutiny than the other. Maybe that's something you and the mod team need to figure out.

dang 7y ago

I'm aware of how often the story has been submitted and also how often people bring it up in comments, including where it breaks this site guideline to do so: "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The issue is that your comment was taking the thread further into flamewar. That's not ok here. Is the policy evenly enforced? No, because we don't see everything. That doesn't make it ok to break the rules though.

partiallypro 7y ago
Still fail to see how this is an unrelated controversy or generic tangent, when Huawei has been accused of aiding in human rights violations with the Chinese government. That is very much on topic. If it were just China in general, that would be a tangent...but this is about Huawei which was accused of this by "Reporters without Borders" just last month, of assisting in Chinese concentration camps imprisoning Muslims https://rsf.org/en/reports/rsf-report-chinas-pursuit-new-world-media-order https://rsf.org/en/reports/rsf-report-chinas-pursuit-new-wor.... The reason I say this is unevenly enforced is that people constantly point out US companies aiding the NSA via PRISM from years back...but new reports of the Chinese government doing the same thing, if not worse, are marked as "nationalist" and "flamebait." Either both are, or neither are. It seems like one comes under much more scrutiny than the other. Maybe that's something you and the mod team need to figure out.