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tenuous claims? really? The only thing he's being extradited for is trying to hack into US gov computer systems, something which he literally admitted to in a

tenuous claims? really? The only thing he's being extradited for is trying to hack into US gov computer systems, something which he literally admitted to in a chat message with Manning. https://www.wired.com/story/julian-assange-arrest-indictment-hacking-cfaa/ https://www.wired.com/story/julian-assange-arrest-indictment... This whole wikileaks debacle has really shaken my faith in comment quality on HN. Gone are the well informed insightful comments that give you a unique insight into the topic matter, and in with knee jerk comments that appeal to HN's overall political direction. I don't want to dive into the comments section to have my opinion reinforced by the chorus, I want to be challenged and maybe have my opinion changed in an intellectual way; and it just doesn't feel like this site is good for that anymore.

belorn 7y ago
Not the first time the US has tried to enforce computer laws in regard to password hashes. The infamous case of AACS encryption key controversy and 09 F9 showed a lot of people willing to help with hacking into computer system, and the reaction from the legal system.
JudgeWapner 7y ago
> I want to be challenged and maybe have my opinion changed in an intellectual way be the change you want to see in the world! begin by not selectively ignoring the false allegations that brought him disrepute. Then you can gain some "insight" from the concept that the US could level much more serious charges against him after he lands on US soil from the relatively minor "hacking" charge. From there you can challenge yourself to respect the temerity required to expose war crimes committed by the most powerful nation in the world. You can do it; my faith in you isn't as easily shaken!
dpwm 7y ago
> The only thing he's being extradited for is trying to hack into US gov computer systems, something which he literally admitted to in a chat message with Manning. https://www.wired.com/story/julian-assange-arrest-indictment.. https://www.wired.com/story/julian-assange-arrest-indictment.... It sounds like an open and shut case then. So why does the US want his possessions? The US should have no interest in his possessions if they are genuinely not on a fishing expedition. Why is Chelsea Manning's testimony required? Why is she back in prison? It seems an open and shut case. Maybe the media are telling you it's not a fishing expedition, but it sure looks like one.

belorn 7y ago

Not the first time the US has tried to enforce computer laws in regard to password hashes. The infamous case of AACS encryption key controversy and 09 F9 showed a lot of people willing to help with hacking into computer system, and the reaction from the legal system.

JudgeWapner 7y ago

> I want to be challenged and maybe have my opinion changed in an intellectual way be the change you want to see in the world! begin by not selectively ignoring the false allegations that brought him disrepute. Then you can gain some "insight" from the concept that the US could level much more serious charges against him after he lands on US soil from the relatively minor "hacking" charge. From there you can challenge yourself to respect the temerity required to expose war crimes committed by the most powerful nation in the world. You can do it; my faith in you isn't as easily shaken!

dpwm 7y ago

> The only thing he's being extradited for is trying to hack into US gov computer systems, something which he literally admitted to in a chat message with Manning. https://www.wired.com/story/julian-assange-arrest-indictment.. https://www.wired.com/story/julian-assange-arrest-indictment.... It sounds like an open and shut case then. So why does the US want his possessions? The US should have no interest in his possessions if they are genuinely not on a fishing expedition. Why is Chelsea Manning's testimony required? Why is she back in prison? It seems an open and shut case. Maybe the media are telling you it's not a fishing expedition, but it sure looks like one.