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GopherCon Singapore 2019 Videos

28 points by ValentineC 7y ago

enriquto 7y ago
Every time these things appear I feel very happy because it seems that the gopher protocol has finally returned! Then I click on the link.
- sagichmal 7y ago
  Every time an article about Go is posted to HN, I feel optimistic that people have finally given up making the same bad joke about a thirty years obsolete protocol that happens to share a similar name. Then I click on the comments :(
  - enriquto 7y ago
    the protocol is not obsolete at all, it is just not very widely used
  - pigeons 7y ago
    The thing is that its not a joke, that's truly what we think when we see these headlines. And at least for me sometimes they are about the gopher I'm interested in.
    - stallmanite 7y ago
      Agreed 100%. Why not call it Go-con? Why Gophercon when it doesn’t involve Gopher?
      - trulyrandom 7y ago
        Because the mascot of Go is a Gopher, and Go programmers are also referred to as Gophers.
    - sagichmal 7y ago
      > The thing is that its not a joke, that's truly what we think when we see these headlines. I'm sorry, but this isn't believable. In the general context of technology, "Go" and "Gopher" have unambiguously referred to the programming language for a decade now.
      - jolmg 7y ago
        Nah. It's also not a joke for me. It's literally my first thought. Maybe what you say is true in social circles specific to the Go language, but it's not unambiguous outside of that. HN often refers to technologies that more mainstream communities might refer to as obsolete, but it's not so for us. There are active Gopher servers right now, and surely a community that still uses them. I believe there is also a rising interest in Gopher among people that believe that HTTP has become far too bloated. From a quick search, here's a blog post from February of this year of someone that decided to also host their website via Gopher: https://petermolnar.net/gopher/ https://petermolnar.net/gopher/ He even mentions how he was inspired by an HN post of 3 months ago that talks about the Gopherspace: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19178885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19178885
        sagichmal 7y ago
        Your "rising interest in Gopher (the protocol)" is a handful of enthusiasts. Maybe if you tried really hard, you could identify two dozen of them. There are over half a million Go programmers in the world.
        jolmg 7y ago
        I really don't like that attitude where everything that's not mainstream should just die. It takes effort to be outside the mainstream. It makes it worse that the reason is simply because a monopoly-sponsored language wanted to use the name for a mascot for their language. Of course a language sponsored by Google is going to be popular. As the most powerful marketing company in the world, they have the power to rub whatever they want on all our faces. Linux was only for handfuls of enthusiasts. The *BSDs were for a handful of enthusiasts. Plan9 is still only for a handful of enthusiasts. I guess they/we should all just disappear or submit to just using Chrome on Windows and programming everything as webapps in Javascript, right? I'm not really a user of Gopher, but I appreciate anything that helps alleviate the insane Internet monoculture that we have right now, where the Internet is becoming synonymous with the Web and where it's very likely if not done already that world laws will be written with only the Web in mind.
ra7 7y ago
YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq2Nv-Sh8EbYBYteOWx9rNuy0JSF8mzsu https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq2Nv-Sh8EbYBYteOWx9r...

28 points by ValentineC 7y ago

Every time these things appear I feel very happy because it seems that the gopher protocol has finally returned! Then I click on the link.

sagichmal 7y ago
Every time an article about Go is posted to HN, I feel optimistic that people have finally given up making the same bad joke about a thirty years obsolete protocol that happens to share a similar name. Then I click on the comments :(
- enriquto 7y ago
  the protocol is not obsolete at all, it is just not very widely used
- pigeons 7y ago
  The thing is that its not a joke, that's truly what we think when we see these headlines. And at least for me sometimes they are about the gopher I'm interested in.
  - stallmanite 7y ago
    Agreed 100%. Why not call it Go-con? Why Gophercon when it doesn’t involve Gopher?
    - trulyrandom 7y ago
      Because the mascot of Go is a Gopher, and Go programmers are also referred to as Gophers.
  - sagichmal 7y ago
    > The thing is that its not a joke, that's truly what we think when we see these headlines. I'm sorry, but this isn't believable. In the general context of technology, "Go" and "Gopher" have unambiguously referred to the programming language for a decade now.
    - jolmg 7y ago
      Nah. It's also not a joke for me. It's literally my first thought. Maybe what you say is true in social circles specific to the Go language, but it's not unambiguous outside of that. HN often refers to technologies that more mainstream communities might refer to as obsolete, but it's not so for us. There are active Gopher servers right now, and surely a community that still uses them. I believe there is also a rising interest in Gopher among people that believe that HTTP has become far too bloated. From a quick search, here's a blog post from February of this year of someone that decided to also host their website via Gopher: https://petermolnar.net/gopher/ https://petermolnar.net/gopher/ He even mentions how he was inspired by an HN post of 3 months ago that talks about the Gopherspace: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19178885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19178885
      - sagichmal 7y ago
        Your "rising interest in Gopher (the protocol)" is a handful of enthusiasts. Maybe if you tried really hard, you could identify two dozen of them. There are over half a million Go programmers in the world.
        jolmg 7y ago
        I really don't like that attitude where everything that's not mainstream should just die. It takes effort to be outside the mainstream. It makes it worse that the reason is simply because a monopoly-sponsored language wanted to use the name for a mascot for their language. Of course a language sponsored by Google is going to be popular. As the most powerful marketing company in the world, they have the power to rub whatever they want on all our faces. Linux was only for handfuls of enthusiasts. The *BSDs were for a handful of enthusiasts. Plan9 is still only for a handful of enthusiasts. I guess they/we should all just disappear or submit to just using Chrome on Windows and programming everything as webapps in Javascript, right? I'm not really a user of Gopher, but I appreciate anything that helps alleviate the insane Internet monoculture that we have right now, where the Internet is becoming synonymous with the Web and where it's very likely if not done already that world laws will be written with only the Web in mind.

ra7 7y ago

YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq2Nv-Sh8EbYBYteOWx9rNuy0JSF8mzsu https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLq2Nv-Sh8EbYBYteOWx9r...