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Well systemd service files are great and represent a nice improvement. But I detest journalctl with its arcane query commands and binary storage; much prefer a
by tux1968 7y ago
Well systemd service files are great and represent a nice improvement. But I detest journalctl with its arcane query commands and binary storage; much prefer ability to use standard unix tools and my favorite editor for adhoc inspection at least. It's still is an annoyance on a pretty regular basis.
- eropple 7y agoYou can tell journald to forward everything to rsyslogd and grep to your heart's content. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rsyslog#journald's_syslog-forward_feature https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rsyslog#journald's_sysl...
- yarrel 7y agoHow do I remove this buggy attack surface from that workflow and why should I have to?
- eropple 7y ago"How do I remove" - I dunno, because I don't care to remove it. Somebody's probably done it. Search on Google? It's open source, so look at the code, submit a patch, fork if you gotta? "Buggy attack surface" - I am unaware of attacks that target journald; can you point me to a practicable PoC attack? "Why should I have to" - because other people are building your distros, expending their effort on open source projects, and as part of doing that they made decisions on your behalf. Feel free to not use those distros for ones that make decisions you prefer; the choice is yours.
- silversconfused 7y agoThen you are commenting on the wrong post. This post is about the systems that do not use systemd. Justifying your own use by demanding examples of failure is... odd here.
- eropple 7y agoSo when systemd comes up it's cool for people who Don't Even Own A systemd to go on endlessly about how it's terrible and An Conspiracy, but it's not cool for people to discuss that it might not be the Snidely Whiplash evildoers thing by evil people when the shoe's on the other foot? Weird flex, but okay.