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> Ugh. This is predictable in the age of guilty til proven innocent isn't it? When an accusation is enough to tank a career then yes people are going to feel th

> Ugh. This is predictable in the age of guilty til proven innocent isn't it? When an accusation is enough to tank a career then yes people are going to feel the need to protect themselves by removing any possibility of that happening. When has one accusation been enough to tank a person's career? Do you have an example? Of one accusation - not several dozen accusations from several dozen parties spread out over a period of decades.

erentz 7y ago
It sounds like your proposal would be to properly allay fears that unfounded accusations can be damaging and reassure men that women aren’t as sensitive as they may fear. Which accepts the premise of what I’ve said and concurs that this article perpetuates the problem. The next thing is how do we do that not just in tech, but wider society since wider society influences such fears?
dghughes 7y ago
The two guys joked to themselves about dongles at a conference when a woman (not part of the conversation) took offense and tweeted about it in real time. The men were escorted out and both lost their jobs. https://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/a-dongle-joke-that-spiraled-way-out-of-control/ https://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/a-dongle-joke-that-spirale... And not quite related but somewhat. Here in Canada a man named Lorne Grabher has had a custom license plate GRABHER lost it due to a single complaint. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/grabher-licence-plate-heads-to-nova-scotia-supreme-court-1.5108121 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/grabher-licence-p...
- vkou 7y ago
  That's not an isolated accusation of something inappropriate that happened behind closed doors. That's a verified (By all parties involved) example of unprofessional behavior in a professional, public space. When you attend a conference with a laptop plastered with corporate stickers, you represent your employer. Try to act like a professional, when you do so. And you're seriously grasping at straws with that second link.
- bjourne 7y ago
  Your examples aren't related. The first is about a joke and the second about a license plate. In neither case was it it the ACCUSATION that ruined careers.

erentz 7y ago

It sounds like your proposal would be to properly allay fears that unfounded accusations can be damaging and reassure men that women aren’t as sensitive as they may fear. Which accepts the premise of what I’ve said and concurs that this article perpetuates the problem. The next thing is how do we do that not just in tech, but wider society since wider society influences such fears?

dghughes 7y ago

The two guys joked to themselves about dongles at a conference when a woman (not part of the conversation) took offense and tweeted about it in real time. The men were escorted out and both lost their jobs. https://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/a-dongle-joke-that-spiraled-way-out-of-control/ https://techcrunch.com/2013/03/21/a-dongle-joke-that-spirale... And not quite related but somewhat. Here in Canada a man named Lorne Grabher has had a custom license plate GRABHER lost it due to a single complaint. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/grabher-licence-plate-heads-to-nova-scotia-supreme-court-1.5108121 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/grabher-licence-p...

vkou 7y ago
That's not an isolated accusation of something inappropriate that happened behind closed doors. That's a verified (By all parties involved) example of unprofessional behavior in a professional, public space. When you attend a conference with a laptop plastered with corporate stickers, you represent your employer. Try to act like a professional, when you do so. And you're seriously grasping at straws with that second link.
bjourne 7y ago
Your examples aren't related. The first is about a joke and the second about a license plate. In neither case was it it the ACCUSATION that ruined careers.