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I find it funny that out of all the smears and false accusations that failed, and even small countries like Iceland were kicking out squads of FBI agents sent t

I find it funny that out of all the smears and false accusations that failed, and even small countries like Iceland were kicking out squads of FBI agents sent to frame Assange(1), that the one thing that stuck to him in the media was this cat accusation. 1- https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/iceland-a-nexus-for-us-wikileaks-investigations-new-york-times-says/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/06/iceland-a-nexus-...

Someone1234 7y ago
> FBI agents sent to frame Assange(1) Your link doesn't say anything about "framing" anyone.
- astazangasta 7y ago
  Not frame, but find dirt on: >In addition, “A young online activist, Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson (known as Siggi), told a closed session of Iceland’s Parliament this year that he had been cooperating with United States agents investigating WikiLeaks at the time of the FBI’s visit in 2011,” the New York Times wrote. >According to former Wikileaks member Birgitta Jonsdottir, who is now a member of Iceland's Parliament, Thordarson had been going back and forth visiting Assange in England, where Assange had been under house arrest at the time, and during that time the FBI tried to get Thordarson to wear a wire. Some fellow activists suggested that Thordarson had worked as a double agent for Assange in this capacity, but ultimately, the US investigators' presence left a mark on the Wikileaks members back in Iceland.
  - Veen 7y ago
    An alternative way of expressing "find dirt on" is "investigate" which is exactly what the FBI is expected to do.
    - swarnie_ 7y ago
      Completely ignorant here so forgive me... Isn't the FBI a domestic organisation? Shouldn't this have been NSA/CIA?
      - Veen 7y ago
        The FBI is primarily a domestic agency, but it can and does investigate abroad. The CIA/NSA are prohibited from acting in the US.
      - jacquesm 7y ago
        I've seen FBI agents investigate cases in other countries. As in: I met a couple of them in passing, they definitely were legit.
      - tbyehl 7y ago
        That FBI investigates crimes. NSA/CIA do... other things.
  - Someone1234 7y ago
    Right. But the person that posted the link used the term "frame." Thus my question. The FBI conducting an investigation and the FBI "framing" someone aren't comparable accusations, since one is lawful while the other is unlawful. Linking that as proof that the FBI intended to "frame" anyone is a non-starter, it simply doesn't say that.
    - astazangasta 7y ago
      >The FBI conducting an investigation and the FBI "framing" someone aren't comparable accusations, since one is lawful while the other is unlawful. According to the article, the FBI lied to the Icelandic government in order to do its "investigation" (of what crime?), so I'm not sure "lawful" describes this activity.
- wallace_f 7y ago
  You're technically right. They were only there illegally and under false pretenses to investigate Assange. There was never any evidence they were framing him.

Someone1234 7y ago

> FBI agents sent to frame Assange(1) Your link doesn't say anything about "framing" anyone.

astazangasta 7y ago
Not frame, but find dirt on: >In addition, “A young online activist, Sigurdur Ingi Thordarson (known as Siggi), told a closed session of Iceland’s Parliament this year that he had been cooperating with United States agents investigating WikiLeaks at the time of the FBI’s visit in 2011,” the New York Times wrote. >According to former Wikileaks member Birgitta Jonsdottir, who is now a member of Iceland's Parliament, Thordarson had been going back and forth visiting Assange in England, where Assange had been under house arrest at the time, and during that time the FBI tried to get Thordarson to wear a wire. Some fellow activists suggested that Thordarson had worked as a double agent for Assange in this capacity, but ultimately, the US investigators' presence left a mark on the Wikileaks members back in Iceland.
- Veen 7y ago
  An alternative way of expressing "find dirt on" is "investigate" which is exactly what the FBI is expected to do.
  - swarnie_ 7y ago
    Completely ignorant here so forgive me... Isn't the FBI a domestic organisation? Shouldn't this have been NSA/CIA?
    - Veen 7y ago
      The FBI is primarily a domestic agency, but it can and does investigate abroad. The CIA/NSA are prohibited from acting in the US.
    - jacquesm 7y ago
      I've seen FBI agents investigate cases in other countries. As in: I met a couple of them in passing, they definitely were legit.
    - tbyehl 7y ago
      That FBI investigates crimes. NSA/CIA do... other things.
- Someone1234 7y ago
  Right. But the person that posted the link used the term "frame." Thus my question. The FBI conducting an investigation and the FBI "framing" someone aren't comparable accusations, since one is lawful while the other is unlawful. Linking that as proof that the FBI intended to "frame" anyone is a non-starter, it simply doesn't say that.
  - astazangasta 7y ago
    >The FBI conducting an investigation and the FBI "framing" someone aren't comparable accusations, since one is lawful while the other is unlawful. According to the article, the FBI lied to the Icelandic government in order to do its "investigation" (of what crime?), so I'm not sure "lawful" describes this activity.
wallace_f 7y ago
You're technically right. They were only there illegally and under false pretenses to investigate Assange. There was never any evidence they were framing him.