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Huawei and other mobile “tech giants”: you should break free from Android

16 points by prince707 7y ago

taylodl 7y ago
I must be missing something. How can Google revoke HuaWei's Android license when Android is licensed with Apache and GPL v2? (https://source.android.com/setup/start/licenses https://source.android.com/setup/start/licenses) What is Google actually doing?
- gaspoweredcat 7y ago
  its not android itself but the google ecosystem tats being revoked, no gapps or services etc
  - CharlesColeman 7y ago
    > its not android itself but the google ecosystem tats being revoked, no gapps or services etc Doesn't seem like that'd make much of a difference, since the "Google ecosystem" is blocked in China, so all the Chinese makers already have their own app stores, etc. The revocation may just cause the Chinese makers to internationalize and export their own ecosystems. In the end, who knows if that would hurt or help them?
    - taylodl 7y ago
      That's an interesting insight. Thanks!
xvilka 7y ago
Oh, please not PWAs... Android itself goes more and more towards native applications instead (Kotlin Native as the main driver of the modernization). So PWAs are definitely not future.
gaspoweredcat 7y ago
people are saying this is game over for huawei but i see it the other way, right now they have a good hold in the market as do other chinese manufacturers, they have the funds and resources to create a solid alternative which i imagine would be swiftly accepted by other manufacturers who will no doubt face the same issues huawei have on top of that people are starting to become wary of the slight monopoly google have, many people are ready and waiting to jump ship, rather than the death of huawei as a major player i think this may be the start of google losing their stranglehold on the market
- xvilka 7y ago
  I am sure Google wasn't happy about this decision either. But this highlights the overreliance on its services on almost every mobile device. Hopefully more alternatives will appear soon.
ezconnect 7y ago
The article states they are too dependent on Google/Android? If the author have used a Chinese version of android he would think its another OS and not android. The localization engineered on it is just awesome when I saw one. The hand writing on screen without even showing a keyboard to type their weird characters and the speech recognition is really good. I think it is a big setback not having Google on your side but that company is rich they can throw a lot of resources to their current problem. I do agree that Playstore/Appstore is a bad monopoly and the world needs another worldwide distributed appstore.
happymellon 7y ago
So a piece by the founder of /e/ on how phone manufacturers could use /e/ instead of Android. Though their website doesn't explain what /e/ actually is. From the screenshots is it just Linage with f-droid?

16 points by prince707 7y ago

I must be missing something. How can Google revoke HuaWei's Android license when Android is licensed with Apache and GPL v2? (https://source.android.com/setup/start/licenses https://source.android.com/setup/start/licenses) What is Google actually doing?

gaspoweredcat 7y ago
its not android itself but the google ecosystem tats being revoked, no gapps or services etc
- CharlesColeman 7y ago
  > its not android itself but the google ecosystem tats being revoked, no gapps or services etc Doesn't seem like that'd make much of a difference, since the "Google ecosystem" is blocked in China, so all the Chinese makers already have their own app stores, etc. The revocation may just cause the Chinese makers to internationalize and export their own ecosystems. In the end, who knows if that would hurt or help them?
  - taylodl 7y ago
    That's an interesting insight. Thanks!

xvilka 7y ago

Oh, please not PWAs... Android itself goes more and more towards native applications instead (Kotlin Native as the main driver of the modernization). So PWAs are definitely not future.

gaspoweredcat 7y ago

people are saying this is game over for huawei but i see it the other way, right now they have a good hold in the market as do other chinese manufacturers, they have the funds and resources to create a solid alternative which i imagine would be swiftly accepted by other manufacturers who will no doubt face the same issues huawei have on top of that people are starting to become wary of the slight monopoly google have, many people are ready and waiting to jump ship, rather than the death of huawei as a major player i think this may be the start of google losing their stranglehold on the market

xvilka 7y ago
I am sure Google wasn't happy about this decision either. But this highlights the overreliance on its services on almost every mobile device. Hopefully more alternatives will appear soon.

ezconnect 7y ago

The article states they are too dependent on Google/Android? If the author have used a Chinese version of android he would think its another OS and not android. The localization engineered on it is just awesome when I saw one. The hand writing on screen without even showing a keyboard to type their weird characters and the speech recognition is really good. I think it is a big setback not having Google on your side but that company is rich they can throw a lot of resources to their current problem. I do agree that Playstore/Appstore is a bad monopoly and the world needs another worldwide distributed appstore.

happymellon 7y ago

So a piece by the founder of /e/ on how phone manufacturers could use /e/ instead of Android. Though their website doesn't explain what /e/ actually is. From the screenshots is it just Linage with f-droid?