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I don't find the author is siding with China, I find he's playing fair. Everything (?) the US accuses China, the EU could accuse the US of as well. I'm guessi

I don't find the author is siding with China, I find he's playing fair. Everything (?) the US accuses China, the EU could accuse the US of as well. I'm guessing it's for historical reasons things are the way they are now, and because of economic inertia that this has yet to change. I don't want to be pro-China nor pro-US. But I see two people wanting to sell me something, and one of them is trying to stop me from buying the better product.

kowabit 7y ago
Thanks
- klingonopera 7y ago
  Sure, but we should be thanking you! :3
oytis 7y ago
Siding as in not morally but practically - doing/willing to do things that favor someone, not necessarily liking someone. > But I see two people wanting to sell me something, and one of them is trying to stop me from buying the better product. This willingness to compromise on global security for a little profit is siding to me. Exactly the same willingness as in Gazprom/NordStream case if you follow the topic. > Everything (?) the US accuses China, the EU could accuse the US of as well. It could, but what the author seems to propose is tolerating China's violations, not opposing these of US (which EU couldn't realistically do anyway).
- Nasrudith 7y ago
  To be fair "global security" has been cried wolf about enough given its use as a scurtiny terminating cliche for reasons that are irrelevant like embarrassment to officials that it could be replaced with "nothing" and have approximately the same meaning. If you don't trust the message the argument goes the other direction it becomes "compromising nothing for a little profit". Why leave money om the table for the sake of a known bad actor? If you sincerely believe it that loss of credibility should be deeply troubling. If you don't it is as it should be - they lost their abused cudgel and can deal with it.

kowabit 7y ago

Thanks

klingonopera 7y ago
Sure, but we should be thanking you! :3

oytis 7y ago

Siding as in not morally but practically - doing/willing to do things that favor someone, not necessarily liking someone. > But I see two people wanting to sell me something, and one of them is trying to stop me from buying the better product. This willingness to compromise on global security for a little profit is siding to me. Exactly the same willingness as in Gazprom/NordStream case if you follow the topic. > Everything (?) the US accuses China, the EU could accuse the US of as well. It could, but what the author seems to propose is tolerating China's violations, not opposing these of US (which EU couldn't realistically do anyway).

Nasrudith 7y ago
To be fair "global security" has been cried wolf about enough given its use as a scurtiny terminating cliche for reasons that are irrelevant like embarrassment to officials that it could be replaced with "nothing" and have approximately the same meaning. If you don't trust the message the argument goes the other direction it becomes "compromising nothing for a little profit". Why leave money om the table for the sake of a known bad actor? If you sincerely believe it that loss of credibility should be deeply troubling. If you don't it is as it should be - they lost their abused cudgel and can deal with it.