Yeah, but then you still need the time and environment to be able to do it which can be hard if you are working long hours in two jobs or whatever to make rent.

Yeah, but then you still need the time and environment to be able to do it which can be hard if you are working long hours in two jobs or whatever to make rent. Then you have the old problem that in many companies HR will still want a degree cert. I think technical and professional education should be always available to people - it helps us all if people can reach their potential after all.