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It‘s not like it was their choice to make. Intel, Qualcomm, etc. are doing the same. The US and Chinese government are to blame. Edit: Quite possibly Windows w

It‘s not like it was their choice to make. Intel, Qualcomm, etc. are doing the same. The US and Chinese government are to blame. Edit: Quite possibly Windows will not receive updates on Huawei laptops anymore.

josteink 7y ago
> Quite possibly Windows will not receive updates on Huawei laptops anymore. If that is true, that will be the basis of the biggest class action lawsuit in history, against Microsoft from every single company in Europe now being left vulnerable to attacks. Microsoft knows that, which is why they will do everything in their power to ensure this is never happening.
- MihailBurduja 7y ago
  It's not MS's fault if US govt is not allowing them to push the updates to Huawei devices.
  - josteink 7y ago
    The thing about Windows updates is that Microsoft will actually have to put effort into obtaining the knowledge about what kind of devices are requesting the updates, since the updates are utterly generic. Also companies can setup their own WSUS servers, which may again serve Huawei laptops. And what is MS to do about that? In general, Microsoft's mechanism and architecture for OS updates are clearly superior to whatever Android has, since they can be applied blindly and generically across devices and units, with stupid proxies and mirrors in between. More important than architecture though: Microsoft has fought the US government in the past when they have tried to enforce things Microsoft has disagreed with (like US governemnt blanket access to MS-owned EU datacenters). I'm pretty sure they'll fight this one too. Their quite significant EU business depends on it.
emptyfile 7y ago
As a European customer I couldn't care less if Martians were to blame... simply put I won't ever put a penny in Google's pocket if they brick my phone.
- MihailBurduja 7y ago
  It's not Google/Intel/Qualcomm's fault.
  - josteink 7y ago
    His point is that not a single end-user in the world is going to care about that when their $500+ Google-powered device stops working. Ultimately, this may erode trust in US-based tech companies in general, which for the long game may play into Huawei's advantage if they manage to come up with a viable competing platform.
    - qxcbr 7y ago
      Maybe Average Joe won't care, but he's informed about what is actually happening, and he should care and take his decision based on that. The fact that he's proud of blaming the wrong party is not something to be applauded.
- andygates 7y ago
  That's why they're not bricking any phones. "No more updates" ain't bricking.
  - emptyfile 7y ago
    If no more updates means no more up to date security patches then as far as I'm concerned they killed my phone... I know that's not what the word "bricked" means.
rakoo 7y ago
I don't really see where China has faulted here.

josteink 7y ago

> Quite possibly Windows will not receive updates on Huawei laptops anymore. If that is true, that will be the basis of the biggest class action lawsuit in history, against Microsoft from every single company in Europe now being left vulnerable to attacks. Microsoft knows that, which is why they will do everything in their power to ensure this is never happening.

MihailBurduja 7y ago
It's not MS's fault if US govt is not allowing them to push the updates to Huawei devices.
- josteink 7y ago
  The thing about Windows updates is that Microsoft will actually have to put effort into obtaining the knowledge about what kind of devices are requesting the updates, since the updates are utterly generic. Also companies can setup their own WSUS servers, which may again serve Huawei laptops. And what is MS to do about that? In general, Microsoft's mechanism and architecture for OS updates are clearly superior to whatever Android has, since they can be applied blindly and generically across devices and units, with stupid proxies and mirrors in between. More important than architecture though: Microsoft has fought the US government in the past when they have tried to enforce things Microsoft has disagreed with (like US governemnt blanket access to MS-owned EU datacenters). I'm pretty sure they'll fight this one too. Their quite significant EU business depends on it.

emptyfile 7y ago

As a European customer I couldn't care less if Martians were to blame... simply put I won't ever put a penny in Google's pocket if they brick my phone.

MihailBurduja 7y ago
It's not Google/Intel/Qualcomm's fault.
- josteink 7y ago
  His point is that not a single end-user in the world is going to care about that when their $500+ Google-powered device stops working. Ultimately, this may erode trust in US-based tech companies in general, which for the long game may play into Huawei's advantage if they manage to come up with a viable competing platform.
  - qxcbr 7y ago
    Maybe Average Joe won't care, but he's informed about what is actually happening, and he should care and take his decision based on that. The fact that he's proud of blaming the wrong party is not something to be applauded.
andygates 7y ago
That's why they're not bricking any phones. "No more updates" ain't bricking.
- emptyfile 7y ago
  If no more updates means no more up to date security patches then as far as I'm concerned they killed my phone... I know that's not what the word "bricked" means.

rakoo 7y ago

I don't really see where China has faulted here.