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It's a China vs. the world issue. China has been spying on everyone, for years. Political, military, commercial, makes no difference.
by PixyMisa 7y ago
It's a China vs. the world issue. China has been spying on everyone, for years. Political, military, commercial, makes no difference.
- bouncycastle 7y agoSeems like we have forgotten all about Snowden.
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- lone_haxx0r 7y agoSo has the US.
- dx034 7y agoFor the EU it's really just the question if you want to be spied on by the US or by China. In recent years, trade with China has probably helped the economy much more than trade with the US. At the same time, China (while certainly acting out of self interest), is somewhat predictable in their actions. Europeans are really critical of China and their policies (esp. their human rights record). But they don't like the US that much more (apart from the Brits) and with a struggling economy you really don't want to make them choose between money and ideology.
- mantas 7y agoAs a european, I'll take US over China any day. Anti-US circlejerk is mostly confined in Western europe (sans Brits). Eastern europe has totally different sentiment.
- slantaclaus 7y agoCorrect me if I’m wrong but if you get an Apple phone you’ll be spied on by no one. Relatively speaking, of course.
- hollerith 7y ago>China, is somewhat predictable in their actions Yeah, wow, it must be completely impossible for someone without decades of US residency or decades of intense interest in the US to understand the US government! I like to flatter myself that after 58 years of living in the US, I have recently started to be able to predict most of the major decisions of the US government. (Youtube videos of speeches and interviews by Peter Zeihan and George Friedman helped me in my understanding. Most of the senior editors and reporters at, e.g., the New York Times and the Washington Post, although passionately interested in the US government, have only a shallow understanding of it IMO.)
- glenndebacker 7y agoYou can easily find examples where you can replace China with the US. And now with the current American leadership I can't say personally that I trust the US more than China at this point.
- mantas 7y agoWould you prefer daily life like in US or China?
- gecho 7y agolol you watched too many hollywood movies growing up that you can't imagine daily life an another country being as good or better than living in America you silly goose
- Vinnl 7y agoThey weren't talking about simply any other country, but China specifically. In terms of government interference and freedom of thought, at this point I think the US is still pretty clearly the better place. From the point of view of the EU, though, it is edging closer to China.
- mantas 7y agoI'll take cleaner air and no social score thankyouverymuch.
- ionised 7y agoI wouldn't want to live in either country, but for entirely different reasons for each.
- ezconnect 7y agoWhy would you live on those countries? US taxation law implementation is like the Chinese suppression of your other freedom.
- kgabis 7y agoI haven't been to US, but all my friends that visited it were quite disappointed with quality of life there (coming from Poland). But I've recently spent a few weeks in China and I'm really impressed with how advanced it is in terms of infrastructure and technology, I don't think US or even EU is anywhere near where China is right now. So it's not as simple a comparison as it first appears.
- tooltalk 7y agoYep, and China has been playing the same game with its neighboring countries for a while. Remember how China responded when South Korea brought THAAD for missile defense?
- ramblerman 7y ago> It's a China vs. the world issue. China has been spying on everyone, for years. Political, military, commercial, makes no difference. So has the US though, even on it's allies as Snowden showed us.