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Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people, but it seems this is the first option many people suggest. Situations like this are more of

Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people, but it seems this is the first option many people suggest. Situations like this are more of a problem with our laws that largely protect the interests of large corporations over individuals and really need to be changed.

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iscrewyou 7y ago
I think the idea is be that there will be less frivolous claims when you know you can be sued for falsely claiming something.
erikpukinskis 7y ago
How would you change the laws to protect people like OP?
- pas 7y ago
  Large companies should be required to have a full-time consumer advocate (paid by the company, but selected by users) who can effectively have a say in matters.
guntars 7y ago
Then maybe someone needs to sell DMCA insurance to small creators that could never afford to retain a lawyer individually. The majority of the invalid claims would get reversed the second a suit is filed and they wouldn’t go further than that.
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- inetknght 7y ago
  That's a step in the wrong direction: preventing abuse will always be better than legitimizing it.
raverbashing 7y ago
I'm sure that based on the amount of copyright trolling going on on YT there would be a lot of money to be made suing YT and the companies/individuals making the copyright strikes
mamon 7y ago
>> Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people. Doesn't that mean that the whole justice system in US is broken? Courts of law exist for this very purpose, so that every citizen can fight for their rights, including defending themselves against this type of extortion. If the cost of lawsuit is prohibitive then you might as well live in some third world dictatorship, with no justice system at all.
- Talanes 7y ago
  It's not quite that drastic; we do have organizations like the ACLU and EFF that bring lawsuits for the public good. Though relying on foundations to fight for the same idea of "public good" as you do is a shaky footing to base a society around.
- brokenmachine 7y ago
  > Doesn't that mean that the whole justice system in US is broken? Plea bargains. That is all.
pas 7y ago
Class action? There are (tens/hundreds of?) thousands of creators affected.
- CamperBob2 7y ago
  I'm sure you signed away any rights even remotely related to class action suits when you hit "I Agree" on your Google account.
  - brokenmachine 7y ago
    IANAL but I thought there was no way to lose those rights, regardless of what contract you sign or web form you click on. That's why they're called rights.

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iscrewyou 7y ago

I think the idea is be that there will be less frivolous claims when you know you can be sued for falsely claiming something.

erikpukinskis 7y ago

How would you change the laws to protect people like OP?

pas 7y ago
Large companies should be required to have a full-time consumer advocate (paid by the company, but selected by users) who can effectively have a say in matters.

guntars 7y ago

Then maybe someone needs to sell DMCA insurance to small creators that could never afford to retain a lawyer individually. The majority of the invalid claims would get reversed the second a suit is filed and they wouldn’t go further than that.

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inetknght 7y ago
That's a step in the wrong direction: preventing abuse will always be better than legitimizing it.

raverbashing 7y ago

I'm sure that based on the amount of copyright trolling going on on YT there would be a lot of money to be made suing YT and the companies/individuals making the copyright strikes

mamon 7y ago

>> Bringing a lawsuit is not an option for the vast majority of people. Doesn't that mean that the whole justice system in US is broken? Courts of law exist for this very purpose, so that every citizen can fight for their rights, including defending themselves against this type of extortion. If the cost of lawsuit is prohibitive then you might as well live in some third world dictatorship, with no justice system at all.

Talanes 7y ago
It's not quite that drastic; we do have organizations like the ACLU and EFF that bring lawsuits for the public good. Though relying on foundations to fight for the same idea of "public good" as you do is a shaky footing to base a society around.
brokenmachine 7y ago
> Doesn't that mean that the whole justice system in US is broken? Plea bargains. That is all.

pas 7y ago

Class action? There are (tens/hundreds of?) thousands of creators affected.

CamperBob2 7y ago
I'm sure you signed away any rights even remotely related to class action suits when you hit "I Agree" on your Google account.
- brokenmachine 7y ago
  IANAL but I thought there was no way to lose those rights, regardless of what contract you sign or web form you click on. That's why they're called rights.